OKW Command Tiger Aura

Jump back to quoted post8 Mar 2020, 13:56 PMmrgame2

Just remove it. Having the pintle upgrade is enough.
The aura and commander were probably put in when the mod team was over zealous in making a new unit.

Evidently both are op and not fair to have

Jump back to quoted post8 Mar 2020, 14:04 PMSuperHansFan

This is why I'm against buffs to the command P4 itself.

If the unit only has a token or limited aura and has great base DPS and performance on the tank people most likely will just use it as any other tank rather than in the command role.

The concept of a command tiger itself is kind of ridiculous to balance, because surely most people agree the design of a weak unit that provides buffs and can be targeted first is more balanced than a heavy tank that outguns anything it faces.

The balance team correctly realised this and it has a DPS trade off like you say... But obviously the tank is being ignored in its intended role. Because you know it's a frickin tiger tank

Maybe create a unique 221 at 60 fuel but aura with accuracy and pen buffs? Maybe throw in a timed extra damage mark target ability too. Then it will synergize well with other doctrinal abilities like shrek pfuzzies if you micro.

Jump back to quoted post8 Mar 2020, 14:04 PMSuperHansFan

This is why I'm against buffs to the command P4 itself.

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Jump back to quoted post8 Mar 2020, 17:51 PMWiderstreit

I played a little bit with Commado-Pnz4.

1. made the 0,9% def. aura beeing an ability for 20sec for 40mun.

2. gave it Vet1 smoke shell like Cromwell and StuG E stun-shot (share cool-down)

3. gave it Vet2 same as Panzer4J

4. with Vet3 it turnes to 0,8% def. aura for 20sec.

Now you got a better version, but also less OP.

Jump back to quoted post8 Mar 2020, 22:09 PMWAAAGH2000

Vet 2 upgrade to P4.J is very interesting idea，I like it

Jump back to quoted post8 Mar 2020, 22:27 PMWiderstreit

It is the Vet of PnzIVJ, not an upgrade to it. It has complete different vets than normal PnzIV.


There are many things we can do with it. Main-thing is that people test it.


In my opinion most imporatant are a. that it stats with skirts; b. aura gets an ability; c. that it gets more passive boosts.

So it can be used with more aggresion, while aura becomes more difficult to use, but it can support you main units.

Jump back to quoted post8 Mar 2020, 15:00 PMSmartie

After the Tiger nerfs the aura should be buffed or replaced by something useful.

Jump back to quoted post8 Mar 2020, 22:56 PMSander93

To compensate the loss of the Panzer Commander (which we deemed too oppressive against ATGs because of the artillery), the Command Aura will lose the accuracy penalty, which should hopefully be enough to make using it more worthwile. Along with a vet 2 turret rotation buff for all Tiger variants.

Jump back to quoted post8 Mar 2020, 22:56 PMSander93

To compensate the loss of the Panzer Commander (which we deemed too oppressive against ATGs because of the artillery), the Command Aura will lose the accuracy penalty, which should hopefully be enough to make using it more worthwile. Along with a vet 2 turret rotation buff for all Tiger variants.

Jump back to quoted post8 Mar 2020, 22:47 PMWAAAGH2000

If like that I think commander panzer4 vet bouns like commander panther will better,less or no bouns for itself but aura will be stronger

Jump back to quoted post8 Mar 2020, 22:56 PMSander93

To compensate the loss of the Panzer Commander (which we deemed too oppressive against ATGs because of the artillery), the Command Aura will lose the accuracy penalty, which should hopefully be enough to make using it more worthwile. Along with a vet 2 turret rotation buff for all Tiger variants.