G43's are simply OP

Jump back to quoted post3 Feb 2020, 10:13 AMT.R. Stormjäger

Let’s be real, if those were Shocks, Thompson Paras or even BAR riflemen it would have ended the same.

G43s are great on the move but at least they don’t have the alpha strike capability of Falls/Shocks/Paras/Rangers and they don’t really excel at any range.

Pfusiliers themselves are slightly overtuned, so that muddies the G43 conversation imo.




This isn’t 19th century warfare where everyone stands in a line and fires. G43 Storms have elite camo, letting you cherry pick engagements where you have superior cover and the moving accuracy of G43s lets you deal damage to retreating or soft retreating squads which MP40s could not do.

Going purely by DPS is irrelevant which at some point you have to get in your head because it’s not a hard concept.

Jump back to quoted post3 Feb 2020, 11:35 AMSander93

I think it's the opposite personally. Using either term for all values is more confusing because there's no way to know what's being meant (unless the post is very elaborate, which is often not the case). Dividing it into target size (the base value) and received accuracy (the modified value after upgrades and veterancy) makes more sense, and it's the terminology I personally use, although of course nothing is universally agreed upon.

Rangers have 0.73 [target size] stock;
With veterancy they get a 0.71 (or -29%) [received accuracy modifier];
Vet 3 Rangers ultimately get 0.52 [received accuracy].

Jump back to quoted post3 Feb 2020, 12:15 PMZeroZeroNi

That great. Do you ever actually do that in game though????

Jump back to quoted post3 Feb 2020, 12:33 PMT.R. Stormjäger

Make an educated guess.

Jump back to quoted post3 Feb 2020, 12:24 PMZeroZeroNi

target size and rec acc (rec acc multiplier if you prefer) are the same thing. There is no point distinguishing between them.

Jump back to quoted post5 Feb 2020, 08:10 AMGoldenpunch

G43 gives some power greens to fight aganist penals and rifleman.So g43 is balanced and good.

Jump back to quoted post5 Feb 2020, 08:10 AMJibberJabberJobber

Ostheer's recon units have 42 sight (G43 Storms/Pgrens, Pio's, JCS) instead of 50.

Jump back to quoted post5 Feb 2020, 08:49 AMKatitof

Ost recon is vehicle based, just like soviet.

Jump back to quoted post5 Feb 2020, 08:49 AMKatitof

Ost recon is vehicle based, just like soviet.

Jump back to quoted post5 Feb 2020, 10:25 AMVipper

Soviets have non vehicle recon option like:
Flares
Sniper
tracking
specialized doctrinal infatry

Jump back to quoted post6 Feb 2020, 17:25 PMJibberJabberJobber

The reinforcement cost reduction will probably help G43's more than the LMG's.

G43 Grens have to trade to be effective, while LMG Grens can easily fall back or retreat if outgunned.