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What's the AVRE going to do? Hit it with the spigot? I suppose that could work in concert with an AEC to stun it, but it's still not stronger than a normal Churchill against armour.
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What's the AVRE going to do? Hit it with the spigot? I suppose that could work in concert with an AEC to stun it, but it's still not stronger than a normal Churchill against armour.
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People need to stop with the off-topic comments. Also please stop comparing things that aren't comparable. Ost fragmentation bombs are primarily AI while the Soviet IL2 bombing run is against structures, stunned heavy tanks or very expensive aerial denial.
What to do with Soviet Airborne?
Make the IL2 rocket strafe 180 muni with longer cool down so it isn't as spammable or keep it at 100 muni but reduce the damage of the rockets by 30-40%.
IL-2 Rocket Strafe
Requires 10 Command Points.
Costs 100 munitions
Barrages the area with P-47 rockets. Effective against vehicles.
IL-2 Rocket Strafe
-Damage against vehicles from 120 to 140.
-AOE damage profile against buildings reduced to SCAS Strafe level.
-Damage against non-vehicle targets from 120 to 20.
IL-2 Rocket Strafe
-Damage from 120 to 160 versus vehicles.
-Building AOE damage from 1/1/1 to 0.25/0.001/0.0005 (this will be adjusted, values are temporary to stop ability from hard countering buildings)
IL-2 Rocket Strafe
A slight delay has been added due to the high damage this ability can deal to armored vehicles in a short period of time, before players can react.
-Added a delay of 2 seconds before the airstrike arrives
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it deals 160 damage per rocket. how much more less do you want it to be?
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IL2 precision bombing and IL2 AT rocket strafe are completely different. What are you even talking about??
And what in god's name does the Sturmtiger and AVRE have to do with an off-map anti-tank IL2 strafe?
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i meantioned il2 precision to highlght that people are whining for no reason because same tactics already exsited in game before the new commnader update. AKA ram and il2 precision.
someone mentioned ram is cheesy. so i said if avre and sturmtiger isnt cheesy enough so what is? i am talking aboust cheese here
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His point is a P4 can't counter the AVRE because it takes insane amounts of time for a P4 to land enough penetrating hits to take the AVRE down. It's not about the AVRE killing the P4.
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Ram + IL2 precision bombing only works on Ele or JT, maybe on snared/stunned KT if executed super well. It is too slow against medium tanks. So no, ramming + IL2 precision bombing doesn't work the same way and on top of that it's also twice as expensive as the IL2 AT strafe.
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120 seems reasonable.
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well for starters t34 is at 300 mp and 90 fuel. So no 240-300. Also if you increase the price you might need to buff it lolor buff the doctrine .
the other thing about il2 precision is that it is still slower than fragmentaion bombs. So you might want to say something about this?
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Did it occur to you that damage of p47 was nerfed as well as locking? This ability is not justified for its price after the hefty nerfs. Talking about USF airborne here.
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All the standard soviet and ost abilities are balances. the IL2 can kill tanks which the frag bombs can't. For only 20 m less thats quite a disadvantage.
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I'm talking about the one in German infantry. The guy was arguing if you think the il2 at strafe is op then how is the drag bomb balanced and also brought up il2 precisions strike for some reason.
Which bombs do you mean? Aren't frag bombs supposed to kill infantry (I think they are in the German Infantry Commander)? Or do we talk about different abilities?
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I'm talking about the one in German infantry. The guy was arguing if you think the il2 at strafe is op then how is the drag bomb balanced and also brought up il2 precisions strike for some reason.
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Maybe not world pen, but is there anything that can be done about this?
https://imgur.com/TkoNiRF (guess you can't embed gifs?)
It seems even a bit of yellow cover can block incredible amounts of damage. A direct hit from an ST should wipe all the models, especially of a vet0 con squad.
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