The Cancer That Is Soviet Field HQ

Jump back to quoted post17 Jan 2020, 12:44 PMSerrith

Stuka is a counter sure, but that's only if you opted for mechanized, and you are investing far far more resources into the counter then the cost of what you are actually countering.

Jump back to quoted post17 Jan 2020, 12:27 PMKatitof

Inactive for years due to patches, because the methods on how to counter it are unchanged since day 1 it was introduced.

Jump back to quoted post17 Jan 2020, 18:55 PMLoxley

Right. Versus bigger buildings, stuka need 3-5 salvos, depends on how big the building is.
There are buildings, which are longer than then the strike-zone of the stuka is.

So while this building cuts of important parts of some maps, the OKW player invests all his fuel into a stuka only to kill the building after some minutes. Occasional unit hits are only collateral damage.
Meanwhile, there are more FHQs in the area to which the allied players can move, when the 1st one is destroyed.

Jump back to quoted post17 Jan 2020, 19:01 PMthedarkarmadillo

What I like about this complaint is about how the okw investing all their fuel into a stuka implying they are going to get over run by armour then pivoting to there being a number of back up FHQs at 40 fuel and iirc 300mp a pop meaning even more investment from the enemy in terms of manpower (not counting the bleed from combat in and around the FHQ)

The FHQ is about attrition. Make it so they bleed hard holding it.

Jump back to quoted post17 Jan 2020, 21:16 PMelchino7

200mp 25f

Jump back to quoted post18 Jan 2020, 04:31 AMC3 TOOTH

Wrong
250mp 40fuel
Its used to be 60fuel, but nerfed down so it can be cut off reinforcement

The other option is the FHQ like Brit one that cost 200mp 25fuel so the doc dont have to rely on urban map

Tested the built FHQ. It works like Ost double bunker Reinforce & Medic combined.
200mp 25fuel vs 300mp 120ammo. Soviet FHQ can take 4 tank rounds and also can be harmed by small arm. Double bunker are tougher

Jump back to quoted post18 Jan 2020, 06:58 AMzerocoh

you guys forget that WM has satchels now and you can just "crush" the walls of a building to take it down.

also FHQ has no retreat so you can just supress the units and rout soviet off the map. You guys really need to get gud.

Jump back to quoted post18 Jan 2020, 09:01 AMHannibal

What he means is the one single commander on OST that allows you to upgrade pioneers with a support package and then they can throw satchels afaik

Jump back to quoted post18 Jan 2020, 10:41 AMSerrith

Ah you mean the pioneer upgrade from strategic reserve.

Well I honestly don't think having to hold a specific commander for one specific ability in your loadout just in case your opponent has included a specific commander in their loadout then happens to select that specific commander and uses a specific ability from that specific commander is reasonable. But that's just me.

Jump back to quoted post18 Jan 2020, 10:52 AMHannibal

I fully agree with you, just wanted to clear things up

Jump back to quoted post18 Jan 2020, 04:31 AMC3 TOOTH

Wrong
250mp 40fuel
Its used to be 60fuel, but nerfed down so it can be cut off reinforcement

The other option is the FHQ like Brit one that cost 200mp 25fuel so the doc dont have to rely on urban map

Tested the built FHQ. It works like Ost double bunker Reinforce & Medic combined.
200mp 25fuel vs 300mp 120ammo. Soviet FHQ can take 4 tank rounds and also can be harmed by small arm. Double bunker are tougher

Jump back to quoted post19 Jan 2020, 02:47 AMthekingsown10

Field HQ is one of the biggest balance problems in team games at the moment I really hope this ludicrous ability is looked at properly sooner rather than later..

Jump back to quoted post19 Jan 2020, 04:49 AMSerrith

I agree there are some problems with it but your statement is just hyperbole.

Jump back to quoted post19 Jan 2020, 02:47 AMthekingsown10

Field HQ is one of the biggest balance problems in team games at the moment I really hope this ludicrous ability is looked at properly sooner rather than later..