Paratroopers are way better than Rangers.

Jump back to quoted post4 Jan 2020, 17:42 PMblancat

no one use 3 BAR ranger

u should play more and learn to play coh2

Jump back to quoted post4 Jan 2020, 17:54 PMLoopDloop

Rangers got nerfed like once lmao.

Jump back to quoted post4 Jan 2020, 16:31 PMRaxzero

Y'all aren't taking this seriously just because it's a codguy thread but he's right this time. Rangers are overnerfed and no longer cost/effective. They're simply not what you expect from a 350MP, 3CP doctrinal infantry that requires minimum 90 munitions.

Comparing them to Paras is out of question of course, Paras are balanced with their doctrines being not-so-powerful. So, buffing them to Para-levels is a terrible idea.

What I suggest is, instead of directly buffing them, give them a bit of utility like smoke/white phosphorus/sprint/moving camo etc. If they're supposed to be the versatile infantry that can choose from 3 options, giving them more utility shouldn't be a problem. I'd like to see a sprint ability but I'd prefer not to deal with sprinting triple-zook Rangers so, I suggest giving them a smoke grenade or moving camo to make them better against support weapons. This should also make the Vet1 bonus better by indirectly buffing it.

Edit: Now that I think about it again, it's possible to lock Sprint ability behind the Thompson upgrade. And giving them stock camo isn't a good idea. So, Sprint or Smoke would be better.

Jump back to quoted post4 Jan 2020, 20:44 PMCODGUY

I don't think they need to be on par with Paratroopers exactly or necessarily need anything added. Honestly I just think their pop should be like 9 or maybe even 8. There is no reason why this unit should be 10 pop, they aren't THAT good that they should eat up so much pop.

Jump back to quoted post4 Jan 2020, 23:16 PMShadowLinkX37

They should match ober pop

Jump back to quoted post4 Jan 2020, 18:04 PMT.R. Stormjäger

Codguy post a replay of you using Rangers and tell us why they’re underpowered with examples from said replay.

Jump back to quoted post5 Jan 2020, 00:09 AMDoomlord52

This.

OP starts a lot of "X is OP" and "Y is UP" threads, but has yet to upload a single replay, despite being asked almost every single time. The community is generally very helpful, and would likely give pointers/advice on why certain units seem strong/weak in OP's use case, but multiple offers to do so have been ignored.

Jump back to quoted post4 Jan 2020, 23:45 PMT.R. Stormjäger

Why? Does OKW cheat the pop cap?

Jump back to quoted post4 Jan 2020, 07:57 AMZeroZeroNi

Obers are like vet3 grens. I
m pretty sure 3x Bar Rangers beat obers at every range.

Jump back to quoted post5 Jan 2020, 15:32 PMSerrith

The mg34 on the obers has almost as much dps as the entire ranger squad +3 BARs combined, and each ober k98 has roughly the same long range dps as a BAR. I'm not sure how rangers win this at long range...

Jump back to quoted post5 Jan 2020, 16:11 PMZeroZeroNi

Hmmm... Not exactly ober kar's have a dps of ~3.2 where each bar has ~4.5. Though lmg 34 dose have more dps than 3 bar combined (14.2 vs 13.5). why don't you do a test and find out what happens.

Jump back to quoted post5 Jan 2020, 16:51 PMLago

Again, at what range?

Your DPS numbers are rendered meaningless because DPS varies with distance.

Jump back to quoted post5 Jan 2020, 16:11 PMZeroZeroNi

Hmmm... Not exactly ober kar's have a dps of ~3.2 where each bar has ~4.5. Though lmg 34 dose have more dps than 3 bar combined (14.2 vs 13.5). why don't you do a test and find out what happens.

Jump back to quoted post5 Jan 2020, 20:29 PMSerrith

I dont know where these numbers come from, at no range does the Ober k98 do 3.2 dps. Its lowest dps is 3.77 and that is the max range. In fact there isnt a noticeable dps difference between it and a BAR up until about range 11. At ranges 30-34 its virtually identical in dps to BAR.

Jump back to quoted post5 Jan 2020, 16:51 PMLago

Again, at what range?

Your DPS numbers are rendered meaningless because DPS varies with distance.