State of the Soviets

Jump back to quoted post8 Dec 2019, 13:11 PMVipper

That is simply cherry picking stats to create a distorted impression.

The stock Comet/Churchill have 290/240 armor and then there are allot more high armor doctrinal tanks and commanders that have them available to allies than there to axis.

Stug/JP have 59% and 70% vs Comet/Churchill.

The FF has 81% chance to penetrate a Panther (highest Ostheer stock unit) max range and SU-85/M36 has 85%.

Vs a brumbar 88% and 92%.

The only stock unit with high armor is the OKW KT.

Increasing the penetration of JP/Stug might make the "way too OP" but it would bring them inline with allied TDs that are already "way too OP" that not only have higher penetration but they also get penetration bonus with veterancy.

Imo IS-2 armor (and other similar units) could easily have their Armor greatly reduced and move to veterancy bonus instead.

Jump back to quoted post8 Dec 2019, 13:26 PMMr Carmine

I get what your saying about allied td,s. But stock axis armour is jus way higher specificly the stock kt has twice the armour most allies can bring out stock. Allies need a doctrine to do the same. So allied td,s being way op have the kt being stock as a valid reason. Unless deflection or x% chance to do deflection damage is implemented.

Jump back to quoted post8 Dec 2019, 14:02 PMVipper

If KT is the argument (and people prefer Tiger over it) simply make it doctrinal and tone down allied TDs the game would be in much better place...

or add any other restrictions or nerf needed to the KT.

For instance one could redesign KT to have great defensive properties but lower the effectiveness of the gun be less powerful. Or make then gun good only AI or only in AP or have the gun work like ISU-152 with HE/AP shells or having a very long reload.


Or one could apply the same changes I suggested for IS-2, lowering armor to 300-320 and have each veterancy level increase armor.

There are many solutions but having allied TDs being OP because KT exist although few people use it make little sense.

Jump back to quoted post8 Dec 2019, 13:11 PMVipper

The FF has 81% chance to penetrate a Panther (highest Ostheer stock unit) max range and SU-85/M36 has 85%.

Vs a brumbar 88% and 92%.

The only stock unit with high armor is the OKW KT.

Jump back to quoted post8 Dec 2019, 15:43 PMmrgame2

And i believe all but 3 Axis tanks, have 0% to counter fire against that, think about that: 0%. I just cant fathom gameplay odds that so oppressive.

Jump back to quoted post9 Dec 2019, 10:50 AMblvckdream

Dear Santa Claus,

for christmas next patch, I wish for Soviet Cheeseborne nerfs. I have been a good boy all year and only sometimes been naughty.

Thank you.

blvckdream

Jump back to quoted post9 Dec 2019, 10:50 AMblvckdream

Dear Santa Claus,

for christmas next patch, I wish for "Insert any fraction" Cheeseborne nerfs. I have been a good boy all year and only sometimes been naughty.

Thank you.

blvckdream

Jump back to quoted post11 Dec 2019, 03:19 AMRitter

Very odd thread.
Soviets need a buff.
Cant complain more how useless the 7 men upgrade is. COnscripts suck! They are unable to kill anyhing and die like flies.
IS2 is underpowerd and has always been. It needs a buff.
Give IS2 more damage to tanks, and make gun more accurate so it can actually hit infantry. It also is way overpriced. 21 pop? No! It must be 18!
SU85 is fine. T34s are a joke, they need to be reduced in pop and fuel cost to 8pop and 80 fuel.
Nobody makes t34s unless he\s a noob.