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My vote is on deflection damage. Hopefully more people adopt this stance.
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It'd be a very different style of play. Heavies would be utterly brutal from the front, but could be killed by one medium if it gets behind them.
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Reee-ing from axis players about their heavies being countered by their counters isn't really enough justification for a change - modders know that, hence not much is happening for TDs for their performance - they simply do their job.
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Is this the direction we’re headed? Removal of armour entirely and 1990 rts style health bars?
Why does armour have to be meaningless, I don’t understand.
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If the Jackson needs that penetration, then surely so does the Firefly?
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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an SU-85 nerf seems inappropriate as this unit isnt really offending balance... what is needed is a jackson cost nerf and a small FF buff...
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Then a JP buff is in order since it more expensive and less effective.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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Its more effective against mediums.
If you want it to be effective against heavies equally to SU-85, then find a way to remove panther from okw.
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Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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Sander explained to you plenty of times its effectiveness vs mediums.
... you'd have to make it OKW end tech TD, that means stripping panther of its AT role or completely removing it.
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And that is a very good idea. Make panther a premium medium that can deal with infantry and armour similarly to t34/85 (a bit worse vs infantry and a bit better at vs anti tank) and make all axis TDs have 60 range and similar pen to allied TD.
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Sander explained to you plenty of times its effectiveness vs mediums.
If you didn't understood that, you aren't going to understant it when I'll do it as well, so no need to waste a breath.
Existence of panther is extremely relevant, because panther to JP4 relation is exact the same as SU-85 to SU-76 relation - different TDs for different targets. I don't see you complaining about SUs differences and how 76 doesn't have 200+ pen, I can't see why you have a problem with JP4.
You want JP4 to perform like allied end tech TD, you'd have to make it OKW end tech TD, that means stripping panther of its AT role or completely removing it.
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The Jagdpanzer IV doesn’t perform as well as the SU85? Well that’s news to me.
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Try using a JP4 vs IS-2 and SU-85 vs a KT and and come back with th4e results.
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The results are quite good. You get to farm vet (vet 5 jagdpanzer is a monster) and alongside a couple raketens you can keep the IS2/KV2/KV8/KV1 on constant repair. Jagdpanzer does a marvellous job vs mediums as well. It’s a great choice for late game AT and couple nicely with a Konigstiger.
I don’t care about comparisons in a vacuum, the SU85 and Jagdpanzer IV are very similar units, tho I prefer the Jagdpanzer for its rate of fire, armour, target size and camo at vet 5.
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They are yet the SU-85 is cheaper, has a similar ROF up to vet 3 a similar target size, lower XP value and allot more penetration.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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well i guess okw has a secret tier 5 only kat can unlock
SU-85 is end tech TD.
JP4 is not.
Point with a finger which part is impossible to understand and we will all help you.
Katitof-2018
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well i guess okw has a secret tier 5 only kat can unlock
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