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UKF is disgustingly OP

by T.R. Stormjäger 3rd May 2020, 01:33 AM
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  • [00:00:11] Stormjäger: disclaimer, I'm pudding as Brits
  • [00:00:18] miragefla: just build UC
  • [00:00:23] Stormjäger: can't micro it
  • [00:00:23] miragefla: OKW can't deal with it early :D
  • [00:00:24] Stormjäger: just dies
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3 May 2020, 01:33 AM
#1
avatar of T.R. Stormjäger

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Just kidding, here's some good old fashioned ww1 tactics. L2P issues for miragefla tbh.
3 May 2020, 06:02 AM
#2
avatar of Sioloc

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Hey, I've casted this game here:



It's interesting to see a game closed off so quickly. Well played!

I'm pretty new to casting so happy to get any constructive feedback :)
3 May 2020, 06:07 AM
#3
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UKF vs OKW on crossing in the woods isn't really tell tale of UKF OP. UKF already can deal with OKW early very well and crossing is UKF heaven.
3 May 2020, 07:31 AM
#4
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There are a few tricks you can pull as OKW to shut down a Brit player early in a 1v1 *cough*Elite Armour*cough*
3 May 2020, 13:34 PM
#5
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There are a few tricks you can pull as OKW to shut down a Brit player early in a 1v1 *cough*Elite Armour*cough*


*cough*221 has nothing on a Bren Carrier*coughcough*
3 May 2020, 13:36 PM
#6
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i don't see anything wrong in that game... just l2p issues
3 May 2020, 13:45 PM
#7
avatar of T.R. Stormjäger

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There are a few tricks you can pull as OKW to shut down a Brit player early in a 1v1 *cough*Elite Armour*cough*


The moment I see that as UKF I build a UC with a Vickers and you've wasted 200mp 15fuel and a doctrine pick and you've lost.

Not going Overwatch abuse vs UKF = autolose



i don't see anything wrong in that game... just l2p issues


Tried and tested ww1 tactics.
3 May 2020, 13:51 PM
#8
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How does a Bren Carrier beat a 221 though? You always have the advantage of forcing the engagement - you have a turret, they don't. Be creative. It's hardly a waste of a doctrine pick either - the Sturmtiger is great, you get artillery and accuracy from Panzer Commander and HEAT rounds are the cherry on top.
3 May 2020, 14:07 PM
#9
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How does a Bren Carrier beat a 221 though? You always have the advantage of forcing the engagement - you have a turret, they don't. Be creative. It's hardly a waste of a doctrine pick either - the Sturmtiger is great, you get artillery and accuracy from Panzer Commander and HEAT rounds are the cherry on top.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=am_gUl3wFVQ

Any non-overwatch doctrine vs UKF is a waste, only way you can win vs UKF is JLI and booby trap abuse.
3 May 2020, 14:11 PM
#10
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So you made a really bad call charging with no support into two Sections and an upgunned Bren carrier and suddenly the strategy doesn't work? Try building a second one.
3 May 2020, 14:14 PM
#11
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So you made a really bad call charging with no support into two Sections and an upgunned Bren carrier and suddenly the strategy doesn't work?


Yes you spot the UC 1v1 with the 221 and then it retreats back to its support because I'm not retarded, the 221 gets damaged and has to be repaired. This is repeated 2 more times before the AEC comes out at 4.5 mins and cucks you.

We done here?
3 May 2020, 14:17 PM
#12
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Not really. You should be capping or charging with your infantry and also rushing a Puma if you're worried about an AEC.
3 May 2020, 14:20 PM
#13
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You should be capping or charging with your infantry


He tried, and he got baselocked from the left within 2 engagements.


and also rushing a Puma if you're worried about an AEC.


He had no fuel income + AEC would have hit at 4.5mins + 221 is 15 fuel so it's a 7min Puma with this fuel control that would have done nothing.
3 May 2020, 14:36 PM
#14
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The funny thing is most of the engagements in this replay arent even affected by the recent changes, feeding volks squads into stationary IS without strumpio support is basically a recipe for loss. Add to that use of the falls was very weak (fighing 3 strength IS at mid range with no support) and this game doesnt prove any faction is strong or weak (I do think OKW's mid game vs UKF is weak though for differant reasons not to do with IS)
3 May 2020, 16:24 PM
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He tried, and he got baselocked from the left within 2 engagements.




He had no fuel income + AEC would have hit at 4.5mins + 221 is 15 fuel so it's a 7min Puma with this fuel control that would have done nothing.


Your point is already proven enough man, stop beating a dead horse lol
3 May 2020, 20:42 PM
#16
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He tried, and he got baselocked from the left within 2 engagements.




He had no fuel income + AEC would have hit at 4.5mins + 221 is 15 fuel so it's a 7min Puma with this fuel control that would have done nothing.


All I'm seeing here is he got outplayed, nothing faction-specific other than he doesn't know how to deal with Sections. I have no trouble eating Brits for breakfast early game as OKW.
3 May 2020, 21:36 PM
#17
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All I'm seeing here is he got outplayed, nothing faction-specific other than he doesn't know how to deal with Sections. I have no trouble eating Brits for breakfast early game as OKW.


Well in rank 500+ you may have no problem, but as soon as you get higher rank, you will have a completely different experience
3 May 2020, 21:46 PM
#18
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at leats they were no trench warfare tactics ^^ so i guess just a misplay by miragefla maybe too tired or 1st game of the day it happens to all!


try to have a rematch vs miragefla see if its the same resolt brits are op!
3 May 2020, 22:13 PM
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3 May 2020, 22:34 PM
#20
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at leats they were no trench warfare tactics ^^


I teched Bofors by accident so my plan was to set up a Bofors right between his 2 cutoffs and baselock him with Bofors + mortar pit + valentine + sniper + trenches. :3
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