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A_E
4 May 2020, 08:03 AM
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I thought that Brits countered OKW even before the patch? What does this prove?
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4 May 2020, 09:47 AM
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jump backJump back to quoted post3 May 2020, 22:34 PMT.R. Stormjäger


I teched Bofors by accident so my plan was to set up a Bofors right between his 2 cutoffs and baselock him with Bofors + mortar pit + valentine + sniper + trenches. :3



they should remove the trenches on brits dont now wy they never did removed it was talked on beta wen the wFA balance forum dont now wy having a faction it trenchs and sandbags option its like having ostruppen it sandbags on the inf but bofors its fine its easy to cunter the range its shorst so the raketwerfer got a prity range ! ^^


i truly hope that they remove the trenches on brits its abusive ! maybe a commander revamp it trenches options but thas now for the "balnce team to work and decided"

but truly we did discussed on beta before the release of WFA ! but "your game your rules"!
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4 May 2020, 13:21 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post4 May 2020, 08:03 AMA_E
I thought that Brits countered OKW even before the patch? What does this prove?


no no no man, being 5% harder to hit out of cover and a tiny better moving performance (a scenario where u dont wanna use them anyway) obviously made them SUPER OP! :snfPeter:




This replay along with any other OKW vs Brit match showcases the trash design of the OKW faction and not Brits being OP. This is simply what happens if you delay the MG or snare of a faction super hard. Same can be seen with USF
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4 May 2020, 13:23 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post4 May 2020, 13:21 PMaerafield
This replay along with any other OKW vs Brit match showcases the trash design of the OKW faction


Huh? When I brought up the issues that the Tiger nerf would bring to OKW, Sander93 just told me I was clueless.

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4 May 2020, 13:24 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post4 May 2020, 13:23 PMT.R. Stormjäger


Huh? When I brought up the issues that the Tiger nerf would bring to OKW, Sander93 just told me I was clueless.

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what does tiger have to do with the shitty early game design of OKW?
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T.R. Stormjäger
4 May 2020, 13:25 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post4 May 2020, 13:24 PMaerafield


what does tiger have to do with the shitty early game design of OKW?


oh just the early game

Yeah agree, the matchup has always been bad for OKW, especially if the raketen just misses 3-5 killing shots on the UC early which is quite often.

At least you could crutch on OP tiger until the patch if you survived, now it's just JLI abuse or death.
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4 May 2020, 14:54 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post4 May 2020, 13:23 PMT.R. Stormjäger
Sander93 just told me I was clueless.Kappa


I said I thought toning down the Tiger was going to leave OKW in a position that was still fine. I never make any argument personal (i.e. supposedly calling someone clueless) so please don't try to untruthfully frame it that way.
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T.R. Stormjäger
4 May 2020, 15:05 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post4 May 2020, 14:54 PMSander93


I said I thought toning down the Tiger was going to leave OKW in a position that was still fine. I never make any argument personal (i.e. supposedly calling someone clueless) so please don't try to untruthfully frame it that way.


Sorry it’s been like 7 months so my memory is fuzzy.
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4 May 2020, 15:28 PM
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JLI and booby trap abuse.


Not sure how JLI and booby trap can be considered abuse. Neither are OP and booby traps are often worse value for money than simple mines.

I agree OKW vs UKF is laughably unbalanced on Crossing in the Woods but I don't understand why you think JLI and booby trap are abusive.
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4 May 2020, 15:37 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post4 May 2020, 15:28 PMblvckdream


Not sure how JLI and booby trap can be considered abuse. Neither are OP and booby traps are often worse value for money than simple mines.

I agree OKW vs UKF is laughably unbalanced on Crossing in the Woods but I don't understand why you think JLI and booby trap are abusive.


I’m refering to the way Orangepest constantly uses them in a specific tactic that’s extremely effective but kinda cheesy. Watch his vods if you wanna see it.
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4 May 2020, 15:48 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post4 May 2020, 15:37 PMT.R. Stormjäger


I’m refering to the way Orangepest constantly uses them in a specific tactic that’s extremely effective but kinda cheesy. Watch his vods if you wanna see it.


I am not gonna go through all his vods sorry. So what cheesy way of using them are you talking about?

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4 May 2020, 16:41 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post4 May 2020, 15:48 PMblvckdream


I am not gonna go through all his vods sorry. So what cheesy way of using them are you talking about?

Not sure at all but I'd assume it's either spamming them or just placing a mine slightly inside the cap circle so you hit the booby trap and then hit the mine which can possibly wipe a squad. Although I don't know how it's abusive since they both can be countered by sweepers.
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4 May 2020, 16:51 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post4 May 2020, 16:41 PMShadowLinkX37
Not sure at all but I'd assume it's either spamming them or just placing a mine slightly inside the cap circle so you hit the booby trap and then hit the mine which can possibly wipe a squad. Although I don't know how it's abusive since they both can be countered by sweepers.


My guess is staying inside the capture circle with a squad (so the booby trap doesn't trigger), baiting in an enemy squad and then retreating / moving out of the circle after draining enough health to instantly get a (near) wipe (moving friendly squad out of the capture circle activates the trap). But yeah this is countered by minesweepers and it's not very different from baiting vehicles or squads into mines/snares or placing mines / throwing grenades on retreat. I wouldn't really call that cheesy. It takes quite a lot of work to set up and baiting the enemy into smart traps is part of the game.
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