Read this all the way through and thought it was a good read and an honest depiction of the changes.
I couldnt help but notice the amazing art of the new commanders. Would like to see more art like that every now and then.
December Patch Reaction
4 Dec 2015, 07:10 AM
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4 Dec 2015, 07:32 AM
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Very cool article!
4 Dec 2015, 07:57 AM
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Nice post! Well done.
But would have liked to have seen more about the map changes
But would have liked to have seen more about the map changes
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4 Dec 2015, 08:05 AM
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So anybody knows how to play Brit after this patch? Particularly how to deal with OKW tank horde now that Brit late game was nerfed to the ground.
4 Dec 2015, 08:59 AM
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wow very nice post cuz I was wondering how coh2 players reacting to december patch. can see more easily many players reactions! much entertaining post
+ damn good artwork xD
+ damn good artwork xD
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4 Dec 2015, 09:42 AM
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RIP middle house on Faymonville. Prolly for the best!
Very nice work on this post. It was a big staff joint effort.
So many changes to digest...
Very nice work on this post. It was a big staff joint effort.
So many changes to digest...
4 Dec 2015, 11:03 AM
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IMO OKW is mainly focused on early game, it's not that easy to get fast med or rep station, with costs on sWS it's impossible to do truck pushing like before, flak HT still sucks, Luchs could be good if called in very fast but it's expensive, OKW should always go for T4 ->P4/JP4 with obersoldats. Also this huge nerfs for Leigs (remove suppression is the biggest one) makes them weak, or at least weaker compared to it's current cost
About OKW doc - it's simply def doc from CoH1 Wehrmacht, advanced warnings revealing huge part of map, truck detections, goliath for ambushes and ofc FTFL which is probsbly cool but havent tested it yet, stuka assault it like the British counterpart Typhoon assault (is that correct name) but instead of rockets they drop 4 bombs and pin infantry with MG's, not very effective vs armour but still can be used well
About OKW doc - it's simply def doc from CoH1 Wehrmacht, advanced warnings revealing huge part of map, truck detections, goliath for ambushes and ofc FTFL which is probsbly cool but havent tested it yet, stuka assault it like the British counterpart Typhoon assault (is that correct name) but instead of rockets they drop 4 bombs and pin infantry with MG's, not very effective vs armour but still can be used well
4 Dec 2015, 11:25 AM
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• Elite Troops ability replaced with Stormtroopers call-in
...People talk about how bad stormtroopers are...Tactical movement...
No Tactical movement in Elite doc.
...People talk about how bad stormtroopers are...Tactical movement...
No Tactical movement in Elite doc.
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4 Dec 2015, 12:15 PM
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Nice post! Well done.
But would have liked to have seen more about the map changes
The map changes werent in the balance mod nor in the patch notes, so there was no way we could have given our oppinions about that
4 Dec 2015, 12:28 PM
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• Elite Troops ability replaced with Stormtroopers call-in
...People talk about how bad stormtroopers are...Tactical movement...
No Tactical movement in Elite doc.
They probably were referring to the "Tactical Assault" ability that they unlock with their 4x StG44 upgrade. Boosts accuracy (outgoing and received) by 50% so they have insane DPS.
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4 Dec 2015, 13:11 PM
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Nice post! Well done.
But would have liked to have seen more about the map changes
As these guides are written before the patch hits you can't access and evaluate the map changes as they are only shown in the final patch
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4 Dec 2015, 13:12 PM
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Permanently BannedIMO OKW is mainly focused on early game, it's not that easy to get fast med or rep station, with costs on sWS it's impossible to do truck pushing like before, flak HT still sucks, Luchs could be good if called in very fast but it's expensive, OKW should always go for T4 ->P4/JP4 with obersoldats. Also this huge nerfs for Leigs (remove suppression is the biggest one) makes them weak, or at least weaker compared to it's current cost
About OKW doc - it's simply def doc from CoH1 Wehrmacht, advanced warnings revealing huge part of map, truck detections, goliath for ambushes and ofc FTFL which is probsbly cool but havent tested it yet, stuka assault it like the British counterpart Typhoon assault (is that correct name) but instead of rockets they drop 4 bombs and pin infantry with MG's, not very effective vs armour but still can be used well
In Paula repley in november you write "and how you were risking your T4? by building it in some vulnerable spot? Paula pls. OKW is way better now than before, it's forcing you more to play HQ units, at least sWS is worth something to keep it alive then just send it to push some units and let it die"
So its better or not ?
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4 Dec 2015, 13:16 PM
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The map changes werent in the balance mod nor in the patch notes, so there was no way we could have given our oppinions about that
As these guides are written before the patch hits you can't access and evaluate the map changes as they are only shown in the final patch
I thought this was written right after the patch
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4 Dec 2015, 13:20 PM
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Permanently BannedSometimes i feel taht in path thread, strategist try to find good things where are only bad and no responsibility about words. We all understand that this change d some thing OP, so wirte it, thats its OP, no its need be polite .
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Relic killing our game, lets save COH2 from Relic
If you're not a ахіs lover when you're 20, you have no heart. If you're not a soviet fanboy by the time you're 30, you have no brain.
Relic delenda est
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Brotheres, what we do in coh2, ehoes in eternity
If you're not a ахіs lover when you're 20, you have no heart. If you're not a soviet fanboy by the time you're 30, you have no brain.
Relic delenda est
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4 Dec 2015, 13:38 PM
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In Paula repley in november you write "and how you were risking your T4? by building it in some vulnerable spot? Paula pls. OKW is way better now than before, it's forcing you more to play HQ units, at least sWS is worth something to keep it alive then just send it to push some units and let it die"
So its better or not ?
It's balanced, before you got 3 units quickly, one of them was free, good for pushing, now you must build it and it costs something so no moar truck pushing
4 Dec 2015, 13:42 PM
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Really cool article. It was a pleasure to read through.^^
Finally a cool analysis of the patch without any fanboyism or buff/nerf-whining. Well done!
About the early Luchs:
I guess the best options are:
-Double Rear Echelon with (now improved) double zooks on USF side
-17pdr with AEC support on UKF side
If you are honest UKF has never been forced to build an AEC even though they are in a good spot; Centaur was much more reasonable and there was no threat of light vehicles on Axis side. Maybe it is time for a new meta?
Despite that, has anybody tried Valentine against Luchs recently? 6cp might be reachable when Luchs hits the field.
Finally a cool analysis of the patch without any fanboyism or buff/nerf-whining. Well done!
About the early Luchs:
I guess the best options are:
-Double Rear Echelon with (now improved) double zooks on USF side
-17pdr with AEC support on UKF side
If you are honest UKF has never been forced to build an AEC even though they are in a good spot; Centaur was much more reasonable and there was no threat of light vehicles on Axis side. Maybe it is time for a new meta?
Despite that, has anybody tried Valentine against Luchs recently? 6cp might be reachable when Luchs hits the field.
4 Dec 2015, 13:53 PM
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So anybody knows how to play Brit after this patch? Particularly how to deal with OKW tank horde now that Brit late game was nerfed to the ground.
Nerfed into the ground?
I find out a very fast T2 is effective. Get a sapper put mines down, everywhere. A sniper to bleed his MP is always a nice thing, but I prefer getting a 2nd sapper first and after that the sniper.
This was the build I did last game and worked out pretty well:
- Tommy
- Tommy
- HMG
- T2 UPGRADE
- Sapper
- Sapper
- AT gun
- Sniper
After that I pretty much just builded what I needed to counter what he had. He had quite a lot infantry so I went for more tommy sections.
Just upgrade one tommy squad with a healing upgrade, you need ammo to put those mines down.
If you try this, let me know
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4 Dec 2015, 13:56 PM
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IMO OKW is mainly focused on early game, it's not that easy to get fast med or rep station, with costs on sWS it's impossible to do truck pushing like before, flak HT still sucks, Luchs could be good if called in very fast but it's expensive, OKW should always go for T4 ->P4/JP4 with obersoldats. Also this huge nerfs for Leigs (remove suppression is the biggest one) makes them weak, or at least weaker compared to it's current cost
This, +1
And im reading a lot of panic about fast luchs, more than enough counters imo. M20 mines still work great obv. New zooks are amazing aswell (cpt/ m20 crew)
4 Dec 2015, 14:44 PM
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Your cost on the Schwer truck(OKW T3) is wrong, the cost is now 120 fuel, not 105 fuel.
Really good read and I like all the calls for changing the way you play(which people will be forced to do after they get done bitching) rather than this seems OP now compared to current strats.
Really good read and I like all the calls for changing the way you play(which people will be forced to do after they get done bitching) rather than this seems OP now compared to current strats.
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4 Dec 2015, 15:00 PM
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RIP middle house on Faymonville.
Finally. I hate it. If one can take it it was so hard to get it back. Now it is much better.
ON TOPIC: to all who were making this december patch reaction thread. Youre great , really nice reading. And slepo you always wonder me. Gr8 work. Now I will have wallpaper to both mine computers
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