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I don't get the point you're trying to get across, you're unhappy that top tier allies teams are doing better in the top 50 because they are playing better because they use combine arms and timely manner abilities?

My point is T34 ramming / IL bombing shouldn't be in the same commander as ISU, same for Stuka bomb drop shouldn't be in the same commander as Elefant.

Hi, I have some personal opinion about your post:

To be honest, I fail to see why t34+IL bombing run combo is too strong when axis have things like TWP on multiple units, fragmentation bombing run, which also stuns tanks, cost less and more so than not mean a very quick kill of allied vehicles with their low healthpool. When timed right these things can make sure heavy tanks respectively are killed. All these are safe abilities with little to no risk posed on the unit.

IL bombing run ability come with both ISU commanders: a commander that have ISU - a long range Assault Gun fire HE round can easily destroy small size 4 - 5 man Axis unit.

So how do you counter ISU as Axis? Elefant OR JadTiger are the best answer because it's long range anti-tank tank. You could also TRY to flank it with other tank like Panther or Tiger, just pray that you don't hit mine.

So those ISU Commanders have the best long range Assault Gun and also have the best way to counter their counter ( ELefant / JadTiger )? you see a problem? no?

At least with t34 ram you have to bypass the enemies AT defences, mines and AT nades to get the ram off, and also hope you have closed the gap enough so the engine doesn't run out. if it fails you've lost 300 mp 90 fuel and possibly 200 ammo, that is alot of resources invested in a gamble. And that is not easy to pull off against a well supported elefant or Jagdtiger as a shot from either of these at range puts it at half health.

Yeah what's the Axis AT defend in this case? An Elefant / Panzersherck / Pak gun / Teller mine / Panzerfaust.

Right, so a T34 when in ramming animation will not stop because Pak gun / Panzersherck shoot at it, will not stop even if the panzerfaust managed to damage the engine. Teller mine usually get destroy because Katchusa.

2 way to stop a ramming are: Use another tank to block the T34 ramming path OR damage the engine BEFORE it active the Ramming ability.

And you gotta remember at least in top tier 2vs2 Soviet don't just send in the T34 alone: Usually a bunch of conscript / Guard will goes along with it to deal with your Grenadier / Panzer Grenadier and having Katchusa firing at the AT Gun, it's called combine arms attack.

it's a gamble but a high chance gameble: with T34 ram + IL bombing but usually high chance you would win, why? Read my post about what happen when it's in Ramming animation and no, it's not half health, more like 1/3 health.

So you lost your Elefant / JadTiger? Now you have to wait 3 mins and in those 3 mins ISU will wreck all your infantry on the field ( same for tank if ISU switch to AP round )

In the games I've played I've seen more often than not that rushing a t34 strait at the enemy in hopes of ram has failed more than succeeded. Against good players their heavies are well screened by at nades, Pak TWP'd, shreckes, mines or your tank get ko'd by sheer amount of AT fire.

About this part it's your personal games so I can't comment, I can only comment from my personal experince against top tier 2vs2 players ( in top 50 )

However I do also see alot of axis players move their elefant or jagd far ahead of their AT lines or being too bold for their own good with it. That is when I've seen the ram combo works well.

Well you HAVE to move the Elefant / Jadtiger far ahead in order to COUNTER the ISU-152: Soviet ISU player will keep their ISU at their max range and fire their HE round and create distant for themself against Elefant / JadTiger.

If you don't move your Elefant / JadTiger into range then how do you counter ISU? You let them destroy your vet infantry then? You move AT gun along side elefant? Katchusa wreck them.

So like other people in this post said: What make T34 ramming + IL bomb dangerous is because IL bomb + ISU are together inside a commander, T34 ramming + IL bomb counter the " ISU counter = Elefant / JadTiger ".


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Personal opinion about how to fix it:

- Remove IL bombing run / Stuka bomb drop from both ISU + Elefant Commander.

- When T34 in ramming animation, if they get shot by AT gun / damage engine = stop ramming.

Right now I'm more about option 1.

Combined arms OP.

Haha yeah I know they are top tier 2vs2 after all, it's just the Ramming should be stop when getting damage engine or getting shot that penetrate it.

OR remove the bombing plane and stuka bomb drop from both of the ISU commander and Elefant commander for balance.

But meh, just my 50cent.

AVRE is simple the easier-to-use unit. It has very good mobility, automatic reload, high armor, turret, and has faster shot animation.

it's really easy to flank and to wipe retreating unit with it...while it is nearly impossible with a sturmtiger.

the sturmtiger need a faster shoot animation and reload like a AVRE...than it will be better

uh huh no that would be too much buff because SturmTiger already got 1000 penetrate and better damage #stop_buffing_axis_rage

To be serious thought I agree that SturmTiger is hot trash: take too long too fire, need to turn into a direct line before can fire, slow fire animation blah blah blah.

What's the point of big damage and penetrate when enemy will always faster than you can even fire?

ARVE is so much better ( just like what you said )

man the ISU-152 can switch between HE and AT round, wonder if the Jadtiger from OKW can also do that ( without costing ammo ), people would use Jadtiger more in 2vs2.

Also, imo ISU-152 with it HE round are good wiping machine consider Axis infantry are mainly 4 man squad, 1 HE shot is usually good enough to force retreat ( if you don't have frontline halftrack ).

tbh if you play as Ost in top 100 2vs2, see Soviet with ISU commander and you don't pick Elefant high chance you are fucked