Honestly, i find that T34 is considerably better than the USF stock sherman. The Sherman apparently refuses to pen anything, even with pen rounds active. T34 atleast does. Thats purely my subjective opinion.
All i find the stock sherman good for are the HE rounds, and even those arent beastly.
Sherman gun is exactly 100% has the same penetration as the t-34/76. Only difference sherman fires faster, which can make it or break it in a 1v1 tank engagement. |
I still love the T34.. it isnt a shit tank. It performs how it should for its price, and while the reload "nerf" is kinda unnecessary, it really doesnt make the T34 a shit and useless tank.
I'm not saying it's useless. I still use the t-34 too. All i am saying, is that it UNDERPERFORMS considerably, when compared to the M4 sherman, the t-34/76 if anything should perform better than the M4 sherman, because the t-34 doesn't come with a tank destroyer in the same tier structure. |
I'm not flaming? I'm showing you examples. Didn't you start this topic to hear opinions about the Jeep? Well, I'm showing you some sad facts. In fact you can't even see me in that link posting at all. It's just an example about the Jeep abuse. Sadly in the wrong hands the Jeep abuse turns into trolling abuses.
Yes okay, you can state your opinion on the jeep without attacking other players. |
Current iteration of the T34 is great. Probably one of the best medium tanks in the game in terms of cost-effectiveness, second really only to the PIV (I'd take T34s over Shermans any day of the week).
Looking over the Sherman vs T34 stats, the Sherman is indeed better in almost every way (usually only by an extremely small margin however) but is clunkier in terms of micro due to having to switch between types of rounds. Also, the Sherman costs slightly more per tank.
I personally think the units fine. I don't whether giving it its old pre-patch reload time is a good move because the tank is fine at the moment anyway.
The difference between these 2 tanks is not minor. That 1 second reload difference makes a HUGE difference in a tank engagement.
And the sherman difference in AOE isin't minor either, sherman AOE kill radius is 1.4, t-34 radius 1.1. While the sherman also comes with the m36 jackson, and you can't have an su-85 if you want t-34s |
This unit was being very hard abused VS OKW. okw had no counter to it early in the game. Good job to relic for putting it to 1 CP. It was also bad at 0 CP cuz it made some players very proud and it raised their ego drastically cuz they won with jeep abuse, thinking they reached the peak of their lives. In fact Their ego was raised that high that people actually started to post replays about winning with jeep abuse VS OKW. Here is an example of someone who is proud at winning cuz of it. It also shows a perfect example of how abusive the unit was VS OKW.
http://www.coh2.org/replay/23742/2-top-usa-players-vs-2-top-okw-players
And why exactly do you have to start flaming other people here? |
I don't see Shermans with the same maneuverability as the T-34s. Don't forget to add that to its ability to survive, relocate,and perform that ram when making a comparison. Looking at the armor, reload, etc. stats by themselves and not include ALL the stats for comparison can be misleading. The excellent manueverabilty of the T-34 helps it negate the strong frontal t4 German armor...something the Sherman is not as adept at. Food for thought.
??? Sherman is slightly more mobile than the t-34 |
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Ok, so lets look at the t-34/76 and M4 sherman, they both cost almost the same, 100 vs 110.
However, for some strange reason, the sherman is better than the t-34 in every, single way.
Sherman fires faster and is more accurate slightly
Sherman HE rounds have more AOE than t-34/76. 1.1 kill radio for t-34/76, 1.4 for the sherman
sherman has slightly more armor
sherman comes with a tank destroyer in the same tier building, thus making it more flexible
sherman has smoke, non doctrinal crew repair.
I don't understand why there is such a major difference in performance between the sherman and t-34.
I think if the t-34/76 got the same AOE as the sherman it would be fine.
One thing to note that the t-34/76 did have an AOE kill radius of 1.4 meters before western front armies was released. Then the t-34/76 got a stealh nerf for some reason. |
At 0 CP there is no counter for the jeep except slim luck. It's almost immune to smallarms. It can roam freely, cutoff your fuel/muni and wipe squads. At 1 CP at least there is a chance to get a shrek, mg and OKW is that closer to get a flak or a puma. I guess you miss this click-to-win unit but it won't come back to 0 CP that's for sure. Good job Relic.
But the m20 comes just a tad later and is twice as better. And by 1cps, you can almost have a puma.
If it was OP, then increase it's fuel cost, nerf it's armor, something like that, but at 1CP, it is simply not a good unit, because the m20 is just so much better. |
**Sorry double post**
It's probably their only use, destroying Pak43 and OKW trucks. But the commanders where IL-2 Bomb Strike is placed suggests a anti-armor use which now is unable to do.
Not since button nerf. Plenty of times it can still safely get away.
That's to unreliable for a 200 ammo + button ammo waste.
It depends on the engine damage and map size/distance to soviet base. In bigger maps like the ones for 3vs3/4vs4 modes it can still safely go away.
Well, engine damage pretty much halves the speed, which means it applies a 0.5 modifier to the tank.
Button applies a 0.33 modifier to tanks. Not to mention it also decreased acceralation and what not, i still think it's possible for the IL-2 bombing run to come in time. |
You do realise how abusive this unit is vs. OKW ?
I'm not really sure why this unit is "abusive" vs OKW if the m20 is twice as strong and comes just a tad later. And it comes like 1 minute earlier than the puma. |
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