They really don't. It's negligible at best. Besides, Shocks have a lot of armor, they can shrug it off.
The maximum damage dealing range is set at the maximum distance of 3, when it used to be like 8 or something like that.
Shocktroops with the PPSh, M3 Grease Guns, and Thompsons were adjusted to have a max damage dealing distance set at 10.
Essentially, Relic made it so that units armed with SMG's would be in max damage dealing range at a greater distance than what Sturmpioneers armed with Assault Rifles could reach.
So Sturmpioneers are effectively stuck in doing perpetually minimum to moderate damage because their max damage dealing range is punching distance of 3. They are literally outranged by SMG's. It's kinda sad and kinda funny at the same time.
Why di you consider only range of 10? It's not like we have only 10 range in game. SP outclass them at mid range.
For example 20 range. 19>6>4. I prefer unit with lower DPS at close range but with linear damage so unit is useful at all ranges over hug-range units. They are more universal. |
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Im not sure about few things... More expensive, worse and easier to counter.
Pak43 - 500MP, shooting through everything all the time.
17 Pounder - 400MP 75F - can shoot through only with ability + it will be quite easy to deny it when consider it does not shoot through everything + Ostheer Air abilites, Stuka, Sturmtiger, MHT etc.
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Bad idea. I would say more but NDA NDA NDA |
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No matter with Rangers or something else, USF need somekind of infantry at frontline other than Rifles and Paras since you already have 3/Rifles + Officer by 3CPs and calling another squad is not always best solution.
So Rifles, Paras and AssaultEngis (hardly frontlines but not bad DPS so let's keep them here).
OST: Grens, PanzerGrens, AssaultGrens, Osttruppen, Stormtroopers.
Sov: Cons, Penals, Shocks, Guards, Partisants
OKW: SP, Volks, Fusiliers, Jaegers, Fals, Obers.
Rifles, AssaultEngis and Paras look miserable when compre to other faction in terms of options you have. |
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I just wonder, why only Volks are immue to blizzard when they are from western front, while Soviets units cannot get such an upgrade. |
Hm. Then if your nose makes a mistake, you will pay dearly. Because OKW pays dearly in terms of mistakes.
Well, if you see Ltn/Cpt and you dont see M20/AA/Stuart it's quite obvious. |
And the usf doesnt have bar blobs or the su shock and guard blobs? your still making very shitty examples.
So.... you gonna make another AI unit when Sherman strikes at you? |
very shitty example . when they arrive the bulk of the army still consists out of infantry.
The jp4 can only counter the sherman the m 5 quad does not only counter the aa track but also the whole army german army.
You already have blob of Volks/Fusiliers, MG, Leig, so you don't need more AI, while well managed Sherman can wipe each squad one by one if you don't have any hard counter. |
Why the hell would you want to get a tank destroyer if there arent any tanks lol
Simple counter play. When I smell Sherman rush, I pick JPIV to deny it. |
So it isn't broken Flaktraks hit the field exactly the same time as Stuarts and M5RapeMounts do?
What about JPIV hitting field before Sherman? By that logic, JPIV is broken as well. |
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