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Thread: WinterBalance 1.213 Dec 2016, 17:09 PM Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2016, 17:07 PMMr.Smith Because you haven't seen AI penals yet. That comes with v1.3. The question, then, becomes how many PTRS penals you want to build to protect your T1 investment. It's the same question you would have to answer when it comes to how many M-42's you would be required to field, to overcome its crappiness. With respect to the lategame, PTRS Penals are mobile, and can actually hurt tanks. M-42 is neither. I stand opposite. M-42 can do something in late game. With vet 2 reload bonus it's even better. Like I said, it's not ZiS, but I can always help a bit. 10k damage vs top ATs doesn't come from killing LVs. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: WinterBalance 1.213 Dec 2016, 17:06 PM Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2016, 17:05 PMTittendachs here is the problem: T1 should not be better than T2 and give access to snipers/very early vehicle... if you want decent AT you need to tech T2 end of story! everything else would be too unbalanced! And that's the thing. M-42 is nor decent AT, it's just to close the gap but it's still better thatn Penals with PTRS which stands completly agasint combined arms. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: WinterBalance 1.213 Dec 2016, 16:59 PM Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2016, 14:59 PMMr.Smith Even if PTRS Penals are weak, at least they allow the Soviet player to get some non-doctrinal handheld AT. Even barely anything is better than nothing. That already gives T1 an edge over T2. Unless T1 units are really worth it, nobody will ever want to pick T1 to build a crappy M-42, when they could simply get Maxim & Zis instead. Nobody wants to build a crappy AT gun so that they leave it abandoned later on. To give you an idea about what a hopeless team weapon looks like, try to imagine yourself, playing as OST and coming across 3 abandoned Soviet PM-41 mortars. Would you ever waste the manpower needed to recrew them? I bet not. You probably wouldn't even bother destroying them, so that your enemy can waste more of their manpower to recrew them. M-42 shouldn't be such a hopeless unit. Thus, if you want to help making M-42 decent, open up a new brainstorming thread and get the community to contribute. Since M-42 should be weaker vs heavier tanks, at least it should compensate with utility. - Avoid putting cheesy utility, like stun - Designs without klingon cloaking fields are greatly appreciated I'll start by mentioning that damage should go up to 100 (maybe even 135) to allow the gun to be a specialist light-vehicle killer, even if its penetration remains crappy. Even if M-42 won't make it to T1, we could reuse the ideas for a potential commander rework in the future. Firstly, why go for nerfed Penals with PTRS if I can go for maxim + zis? I imagine that people would rather go for powerful AI Penals and M42 rather than medicore Penals with PTRS which aren't good AI, nor AT. Secondly M-42 is not that crappy. I did with it over 10k damage many times in 2v2 games vs top ATs. IMO the only thing it would need is vet ability which would increase penetration and/or damage for 30secs. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Should squads gain XP for repairing?13 Dec 2016, 13:24 PM Yes, it was said many times that engis should get EXP for sweeping mines or repairing. It's very old idea, but not gonna happen. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: WinterBalance 1.213 Dec 2016, 13:22 PM Put down PTRS and make M-42 great again! In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: PTRS penals informative poll13 Dec 2016, 10:21 AM Simple question. If it's preview, why not put M-42 in T1 to see how players will react/adapt? In: COH2 Balance
Thread: WinterBalance 1.212 Dec 2016, 11:19 AM Jump back to quoted post12 Dec 2016, 08:08 AMLimaOscarMike sound great tho but still need some love 1 M42 can keep opponent light tank at bay but what should we do with them in mid game cause it wasted pop cap too Wasted pop-cap, just like PTRS Penals in late game But in fact it's not. I've had plenty 2v2 games agasint top 100 AT where I used defensive doctrine and I was able to reach 10k damage with single M-42 quite often. It may have low penetration and damage but it has quite good rate of fire. If anything, it could see vet ability similar to 57mm which would increase penetration and/or damage for 30secs for example. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Reanactment - Roman Empire11 Dec 2016, 13:19 PM Nothing facy here, but yesterday I finally made a small "temple" in the corner In: Scrap Yard
Thread: WinterBalance 1.210 Dec 2016, 16:41 PM Jump back to quoted post10 Dec 2016, 16:32 PMzerocoh that's because PWerfers are OP as fuck you dumbass. damage reduction doesn't work when you are doing insane damage. lul lul Thanks for nice laugh In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: WinterBalance 1.210 Dec 2016, 16:03 PM Jump back to quoted post10 Dec 2016, 15:51 PMMr.Smith It's an AT weapon. The purpose of PTRS Penals is to give soviets a non-doc light AT option that doesn't suck hairy balls (M-42), and would actually be carried to some capacity in the lategame. PTRS Penals seemed like a good option, since they have very little overlap with existing handheld AT options (PTRS Cons and Guards are better, each for different reasons) Since we want to investigate just how well PTRS Penals can carry both non-doc Soviets and cheese-doc soviets in the late-game, we wanted to see how they would perform with a bare-minimum capacity PTRS rifle. (6% accuracy at far is the lowest accuracy that guarantees hits on most axis vehicles on all ranges). But M-42 doesn't suck It's "special" unit, but far from sucking one. In: COH2 Gameplay