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Thread: Balance Preview Patchnotes23 Nov 2015, 21:47 PM Jump back to quoted post23 Nov 2015, 21:29 PMAchtAchter It's not cheaper when you consider unit costs, the time of arrival for the tanks is the same since the cheapest unit costs 135 fuel in that tier. Units costs have nothing to do with it. Add grenades and racks.At least of them will be unlocked before Major, on the other hand OKW does not need to unlock anything. Add fuel for Ambulance (while OKW receives "free" healing). And you end up with 25F (nades are almost must-have) +10F for ambulance (another must have) + 60F for Captain + 120F for Major - 15starting F = 200F. On the other hand, Schwerer with Med HQ is ready for 150. First PzIV? - 285. First Sherman - 310 (325F). No need to say that PzIV, especially with triple armor bulletin is way superior to Sherman. First E8 - 340F (355F). First Panther 325F First Jackson - 325F. (340F). First JPIV - 285F. What if we add racks? Well you can see in bracktes (PzIV can come 40F earlier than Sherman and JPIV 55F earlier than Jackson!!) I don't find the arrival of those units "at the same time", especially when Panther, unit which is superior to E8, comes 15F earlier while it should come later. What about MP cost? If we assume that USF need ambu and grenades (which they need), you must pay 840MP to get Major. How much OKW must pay to get Schwerer? 600MP (this comes with grenades, of course they are free, and healing). So, please, get your facts straight. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Balance Preview Patchnotes23 Nov 2015, 21:15 PM Jump back to quoted post23 Nov 2015, 20:57 PMRollo I don't think Ost panther is a good comparison, maybe USF E8 is a better one and they seem to come out at similar times to me depending on what light vehicles each player purchases. Considering that the jagdpanzer could be fielded before a sherman last patch I don't think a panther being affordable when it is will make that much difference. (most people will just continue to build PIV's) To unlock E8 you need to pay 155/165F (not to mention unlocking nades or racks). It's still more than Med HQ + Schwerer HQ, while I consider Schwerer HQ superior to Major. I see no reason why last tier of OKW should be cheaper or in line with last tier of USF since it provides damn powerful units + locking down sector. 120F for Schwerer seems reasonable for me. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Balance Preview Patchnotes23 Nov 2015, 20:51 PM 1. What about price for LMG43 with 100% ammo income? 2. How to justify Panther's timing? For OST (without T3 building) it is 195Fuel (with T3 270F). For OKW it is 150F with Med HQ and 175F with Mech HQ. It's quite cheaper than OST, espeicially with Med HQ. With all trucks (Med HQ->Mech HQ-> Schwerer HQ) it is 215fuel. For Ostheer it is 270 Fuel. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Match the range on the 17pndr and JagTiger23 Nov 2015, 20:41 PM Jadgtiger counters 17 pounder Remove crew shock and give it 70 range. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Balance Preview Patchnotes23 Nov 2015, 18:32 PM OKW starting resource increased from 0 to 10 Battlegroup HQ reduced from 30 fuel to 25 Mecahnized Regiment HQ increased from 40 to 50 fuel Schwerer Panzer HQ cost increased 100 fuel to 105 fuel Volks regular grenade removed again Luch Penetration reduced from 25 to 20 Infantry section damage reverted back from 14 to 16 Infantry section targets reverted back from 0.9 to 0.8 Infantry section veterancy 2 recieved accuracy modifer increased from 0.66 to 0.76 Bolster Infantry cost increased from 100/25 to 150/35 German Supply Drop zone plane comes in from longest path so that you can shoot down the plane now. Very good update. Love that German Supply was brought in line with allied (tho still unbalanced cause of flak base emplacements) In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Should T-34-85 be non doctrinal?23 Nov 2015, 16:53 PM Jump back to quoted post23 Nov 2015, 16:34 PMEsxile Who will ever build a SU85 if the T34-85 is stock? I think the problem is deeper in the gameplay, having the SU76 overlapping on the SU85 function. Relic could have downgrade the SU85 in T3 with a nerf of its stats, making it faster to build and then T34-85 in T4, more expensive but better stats and with a turret. But what to do with the SU76 then? Or T3 SU76 (stat nerfed) T34-76 (same stats) SU85 goes Call-ins with a price and CP requirement reduced T4 T34-85 SU85 becomes a more-or-less cheap call-in if you decide to play T34-74 and delay your T4. Like USF Armor commander. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: KV-1 need buff23 Nov 2015, 15:05 PM Once I did a test with Tiger and M-42. You need about 110-140 shots to kill frontally one Tiger at mid-max range In: COH2 Balance
Thread: KV-1 need buff23 Nov 2015, 13:47 PM Jump back to quoted post23 Nov 2015, 12:53 PMStrummingbird Incorrect. Heavy tank vet (Tiger, King Tiger, KV2, IS2, Pershing, KV1, Pershing, Comet, Churchill)= Vet 2: Increased turret rotation, increased range (+5), increased ROF. None of the multirole heavy tanks get armor or HP at this level (or at any vet level). Vet 3: Increased accuracy, increased mobility, increased ROF. Newer vehicles tend to get a grenade ability at Vet 2 or 3 as well. Tanks that get more HP / Armor with vet: P4, JP4, Panther, Brummbar, Sturmtiger, Stug. None of these are heavy tanks. I guess his point was that KV1 is damage sponge (so it should have vet increasing this role on battlefield), while every single tank you mentioned (maybe ecept Churchill) is very powerful tank, not just damage sponge, that's why they recevie various offensive vets instead of durability vets. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Disembark for Pak-43 and howitzers23 Nov 2015, 13:36 PM Howies are fine. It's Pak43, 17 Pounder, Bofors and Mortar Emplacement which need ability to "lose" for 50% (or any other %) of resources. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Balance Preview Patchnotes23 Nov 2015, 12:17 PM Jump back to quoted post23 Nov 2015, 11:44 AMJunaid When comparing units, taking tech into account is bullshit. Unit price that's all what matters, so your post lacks of true content. In: COH2 Balance