Profile of OrionHunter88

VCOH had hardcaps on heavies
DOW2 had hardcaps on super heavies

I know alot of people are against it (because they think it limits strategic options), but it really does help solve a number of balance issues. Hardcaps would be for call-ins only. I would be open to suggesting a hard cap of two for Panthers/SU85 but I doubt that would take so lets just forget it.


Hardcap of 1: Elephant, ISU152, Tiger, IS2

I was under the impression the soviets had the best arty.

It's already been said. Russia had the most artillery. In terms of crew training, mobilization, integration with infantry, logistics, quality of equipment and munitions, communication technology, ballistics calculation technology, artillery theory - USA was vastly superior to all nations in the above mentioned qualities. And other than Russia, USA also had the greatest quantity. A great deal of german/russian artillery was still hauled around by horses even in 1945, USA's artillery was all pulled by mechanized vehicles. Namely the M4 high speed tractor.

If you wanted to put it in simple terms for how COH2 has been balanced, and how I think america should fit into this with its own niche.

Soviets - Good infantry, good anti-infantry
Germans - Good tanks, good anti-tank
USA - Good artillery, good counter artillery (air call-ins).

Stock Soviet Vehicles are a WASTE of manpower.
From the M3A1 to the SU85, soviet vehicles are simply just a waste of manpower. The tech buildings cost are simply out of sight. The resources used to gain and build soviet vehicles is just simply too high for their cost effectiveness. German units have an excessive proliferation of highly-effective AT weapons.

I’ve had games where I build 2-3 SU-85s and may be hold my own against his panthers, but then the panzer grenadiers w/ schrecks break through and blast them away because they have serious maneuverability issues. Or if he builds up a couple tanks and vet1 races past SU85 they will never turn around in time before getting destroyed.
All the other stock soviet vehicles are just garbage. I mean really they are just trash. M3A1 scout car? Gets obliterated by german scout car as soon as it hits the field. Not like it lasts that long against infantry anyway. You know that soviet scout car has 5.4 frontal armor?? Same as German scout car rear armor! And all that costs 10MP/5fuel more just because it hits the field 3 minutes sooner, which is a mute point anyway since grenadiers spawn with panzerfaust ability.
M5 is decent but come on, it never shoots planes down in time (if it shoots them down at all), before a recon plane gets to the rear to spot your arty piece so that an uncounterable bombardment wipes your expensive artillery out.
T34. Everyone knows it’s a joke. The ONLY reason to build it is for the benefit of ram. Even then, against a good german player who knows that ram has a large minimum range (so if you actually get up close to T34 your safe from ram) and is buggy in a lot of situations– not to mention blitz will out run ram. As a tank its awful. Any german AT type weapon has GUARANTEED penetration vs its frontal armor. It often misses tanks and infantry (although it sometimes randomly gibbs whole sqauds). Sure on paper if you get 4 or more out it is good, but then the mechanics/scale of the game start to work against you as chokepoints/pathing etc all get in your way.
T70. Great another “recon” vehicle. What soviet vehicles actually kill stuff? I mean really… Sure it’s good vs poorly managed infantry but it has a pretty short life expectancy on the battlefield. Any german T3 vehicle hits the field and T70 is done for, unless you have 4 of them… and then they will still be done for eventually.

Katyusha?? Miss much? Panzerwerfer fires ALL its rockets at the same time so they all hit. Katyusha fires a long barrage, which both leaves it exposed for a longer time and the rockets are just so easy to avoid only a noob gets squads wiped out from katyusha. They are better in pairs, but still…
SU85. The only thing it can do is attack tanks and bunkers. Its not even any good vs units garrisoned in a building. It turns slowly and moves slowly. Against stock P4 and Panther it will lose 1 on 1 nearly every time. Even in 2s and 3s it can be flanked, especially with abilities like blitz and smoke screen. These units have to be babied and protected with your whole army to be used effectively. And if an elephant hits the field? Forget about it. In a mere 2, sometimes 3 shots the elephant will wipe your SU85 out and you never even got close enough to shoot at it. Look it costs the same as a P4 and while it has better AT ability on paper, in practice because its lack of maneuverability it is a highly situational and specialized unit.

SU76. This is what must be the worst unit in game. Yadda Yadda the free light arillery barrage is good. Who cares. There are runners up, but aside from combat abilities it takes up a valuable slot in the T4 lineup that could’ve been filled by any number of heavy Russian fighting vehicles. Unit is trash and it makes T4 even more limited.

The last few games I played, I actually DID NOT even build T3 and T4 and actually performed better for it. I relied on Zis/conscript nades/ loads of mines for AT defense until I could call-in some semi decent tanks(KV1, T34/85,IS2). That means I had to wait until CP8-10 to even have access to decent vehicles. And even then, KV1 has good armor/health but a crappy gun and no offensive abilities, no MG turret upgrade, T34/85 has a decent gun (only 120pen though) but its frontal armor can still be penetrated by every AT weapon in the german arsenal. IS2 another decent tank, but its still barely capable of taking on a panther even though it cost a TON more.

One thing that should be added to COH2 is melee combat.

It kinda made sense that in COH1 it was not included since there was much less actual melee fighting in that theater by that point of the war.

However, on the eastern front melee hand-to-hand combat was quite common. In fact it was standard russian practice to have bayonets fixed at all times. Besides that many Russian soldiers sharpened their entrenching tool as sharp as a knife.

It would be intersting to add to the game play. In terms of balance, Russian > German. German > American for melee combat.

Melee combat would be a player activated ability where once you get within a proximity you activate the ability and your squad will engage enemy squad in melee fighting. The two squads would be "immobile" as in you can't issue a move order to disengage from melee, but you can still retreat.