I'll let you figure out on your own why that is not a good way of factoring the cost.
In the meantime, I'll grow old waiting for you to come up with a good excuse why.
If you have any useful input about Ostheer commander revamp feel free to add.
My input is, since writing is your strength, not reading, 5 man grens are balanced now for their timing.
You want to see them being stronger again? Then delay them. |
Conscripts 7 men timing has very little to do with a thread about Ostheer commander revamp.
Exactly, but since memory seems fleeting:
5 men grenadier cost 270 manpower/ 60 munition, that same way 7 men conscripts cost 258 / 50 munition.
That is a simple fact.
So why are you comparing them out of sudden, like it did, when you yourself said its irrelevant? |
The game doesn't end when both players have fully teched idiot. that makes no sense why at late game a new cheaper 7-man cons should be any better than a new 5-man gren.
There is a timing for units to peak. They continue to be useful, but the time when they were strongest is past them.
For cons, its late game.
For grens and volks its mid game. |
OK, how would you factor the cost of rax every individual rifle men/any other unit. I would like to hear it. If you don't reply I'll simply take this as straw man argument.
The usual.
Cost of upgrade divided by amount of units that will likely benefit from it.
In USF case, 6 would be a good number. |
5 men grenadier cost 270 manpower/ 60 munition, that same way 7 men conscripts cost 258 / 50 munition.
That is a simple fact.
Timing is also a measurement of units strength and potency and 7 man cons arrive much later then 5 man grens.
That is a simple fact. |
any further nerf to brumbar also need to nerf kv and churchill which ost are finding hard to fight off and have lesser tools than allies vs brumbar
It is still completely unrelated and doesn't work that way. |
Look, you can't factor side tech into squad cost. Because rax doesn't only benefit rifles it also benefit every other infantry type that have weapon slots. I don't get why allied players think side tech is a huge disadvantage cause it's not. It doesn't even hamper teching anymore hell allied teching is less expensive compared to ost ones. So where the FUCK is your fuel going???
If you don't want to factor in costs of racks, you can't factor in costs of reinforcing that 5th gren.
Sorry, no double standards. |
Hey, can we get more tweaks to 5-man gren. The last patch nerfed it too much. i don't know some more adjustments to their st44 and maybe 5% ra bonus would be nice. At this stage they loose to single bar'd rifle men at all ranges despite only costing 10 mp less. while svt cons have no trouble fighting lmg ober from short range.
Single bar rifles are still greater investment and the fact they won prior to patch is a testament to how much above their weight have they punched. |
i would say cromwell taking on a brumbar is way more effective than a p4 vs churchill or kv1.
Brummbar and kv/churchill are so incomparable I don't even have anything to compare to.
What's the point even saying that? |
What if click on building will spawn on building, click on the field will air drop?
These are 2 completely different, completely separate mechanics.
You can't put them under the same action. |
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