But when Relic released Tiger Ace in their stream over a year ago, they said that the "CREW" is too ELITE for abandon mechanic to work, so this must be a bug, or just 1 of Relics small tricks/mistakes
New crew have found old ones diaries with entry "how to be elite for dummkopfen". |
I think OP meant that he believes Wehr tech tree should stay progressive, not selective, and if that was his point, I agree with him
Well, he is wrong then.
New sov teching is T1 or T2, T3, T4
New ost teching is T1, T2, T3 or T4. |
What issue?
If you're talking about T3 level armor, then you need to subtract BP3 and T4 costs from wehr.
You will NOT go T3 and T4 anymore, you have easier way to go T4, you have a choice.
You're making a storm in the glass of water here. |
So the OKW gets vet 2 Panzer IVs off the bat with skirts (minus blitz)?
I guess that makes sense though as the Panzer IV will most likely be the same price as the Ostheer equivalent (see Panther prices).
Why do you think a tank with superior stats would be equal in cost to inferior one is beyond me.
It'll cost 145 fuel. That 230 armor doesn't come for free.
Also for OKW P4 skirts were never part of vet, it was always upgrade. |
You might see more 85´s or you might make a daring rush to enemy base and kill his T3 before he can build his T4 to get them, same works for Allies since OST buildings cost a ton of resources after this patch, making base rushes viable, or you can just build a howitzer and shell them to death before being bombed to death by CAS
Given the spammability of T34/76(1 34/85 is 145 fuel, 2 76s are 160) I believe guard motor will be much less popular and other doctrines will get second wind.
Just imagine how the production will speed up with dank hunter scavenging or KV-8/1/M4C + T3 support.
There are certainly some new doors opened here.
It will also take some time before CAS falls out from the spot light. |
I would support making it come with autocannon upgrade but cost 30 fuel and more MP.
That still wouldn't excuse buffing it as you'd simply shift muni upgrade cost to mp and fuel cost.
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The 222 can do actually ok damage to the t70 if it gets behind it, though if relic's intention is to increase the effectivness of light vehicles the 222 needs a rather huge buff, it now doesn't die as easily as before and is an ok recon vehicle, but it's still pathetic in combat.
Its dirt cheap.
You can't expect much of such low cost vehicle.
Not from a single one at least.
I would like them to be more effective against infantry, but they already are light vehicle soft counter as well. You can't have generalist vehicle at such low price and have it effective against both inf and light armor. Does greyhound still loses to it?
Single one will always be a scout, you need at least two to have some decent Ai firepower. |
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*gasp* you're... you're trying to tell us that there is something that requires muni early game, will be needed and isn't LMG or rifle nade?!
Thats just too much management, micro, macro and planning to bear! |
T-70 and Stuart will arrive as soon as Luchs!
Oh the tragedy!
You'll need hard AT as soon as allies now and won't be able to jack off on grens and MG42 alone until fast P4 anymore!
Also tech cost changes made soviet industry even weaker, so I have no idea why you are afraid of it. |
Honestly, OKW will get completely rekt by Soviets.
T1 + Guards has always been strong but soon you'll be able to get T-70/SU-76s out at the same time when OKW can get a Luchs (maybe even at the same time as a FlaK HT?) and SU-76s will counter every vehicle that isn't a Panther.
SU-76s are fine ATM but when they arrive at the same time when OKW light vehicles hit the field that are essential to deal with Snipers/infantry in general...I think it'll be pretty OP (yep, SU-76 OP, you heard it here first).
I suppose then that ignoring puppchens, pumas and stalling for panther will be punished by light armor.
All armies got their teching directly delayed, OKW teching was indirectly delayed now that you need light armor or hard AT yourself against light armor user.
Also, Su-76 can't really fight stealthed puppchens or flanking puma. Its armor is paper thin so even 222 will wreck it if you flank. |