Profile of ThoseDeafMutes

Being able to mount a crew to fire a mortar and firing within the truck are two completely different things, I simply don't think the UC was large enough to support a mortar crew firing from inside, which was what I meant.

Something that could be done - not sure about its gameplay impact - have a mortar that can be unpacked from a UC to have 1/3-1/2 of the hp of the current mortar pit but take 5-10 seconds to unpack/pack. That would be certainly more interesting and less gamebreaking than the current mortar pit.

The 3" and 4" mortars were purely using the UC as transportation, however the 2" version is as I suspected something that can be set up and fired from within the UC. I wasn't 100% sure of this earlier today, but now I'm reasonably confident:



Interestingly the 2" mortar was not only fired from the UC, there was a permanent mount in some UCs for it. So it was truly a Self Propelled Mortar, unlike the 3" and larger versions. Apparently the Australian 3" carrier was a specially modified version that could fire while mounted or dismounted, however that's not in British use.

Completely unhistorical as it would never fit, but I'd be happier with a UC Mortar than a mortar pit.

British employed 2" Mortars in UCs, one per platoon according to my 30 second internet search. The Australians had a 3" mortar variant of the UC. 50mm mortar coming from Tier 0 sounds ok for a 60 mun upgrade that unlocks when you research the first base upgrade. Some indirect earlier than the mortar pit might be good, as long as it's not abysmal in performance terms, since the current mortar pit is one of the few things keeping Brits competitive early on in team games.

Edit: Apparently Canada had 3" also, unsure of UK directly.

That probably wouldn't be too difficult to add but at the end of the day you have a vital capability being left at the mercy of whoever made the map. Map design is already an issue with flanking routes for example.

Adding FRPs to the Soviets and Ostheer would at least allow you to balance them independently (to a degree) of map design.

I just think that in some way you need to scale back the efficacy of infantry blobs, and increase the value of wining (non-lethal) engagements. Adding FRP will make the game more even between factions, but still promote Shrek blobs etc that you can just instantly retreat if an engagement looks unfavorable without conceding significant field presense like you would if you removed FRP from the game. The value of spreading your units out vs concentrating them and risking losing everything off the field for a period of time is warped by their very existence, imo.

Big maps are big maps, they are kinda sucky but we managed in Vanilla ok without the factions having FRP. Soft retreats to bunkers or half track strong points were a perfectly reasonable medium, imo. Getting pushed off should hurt. FRP as capping points would mean that on very large maps you could have modestly placed FRPs to get you back into the fight "somewhat faster" than a full retreat, without being able to plonk them right on the front lines. That is, the map is large and can feature spread out engagements, but will also not fuck with 1v1/2v2 or the balance on smaller 3v3/4v4 maps.

I absolutely agree though that the map balancing has been very sub par historically for CoH2. That's one area they need major improvement on.

I think the biggest issue here is the same-thing people complained about when OKW came around. The factions are not necessarily balanced or even unbalanced, but the style in which these factions are played and the results they produce are just not enjoyable to play against.

Even if you win, lets say against a double brits team in a 2v2 that both spam emplacements, one could assume that the game is balanced in a sense, but the important issue for the person is, was it a fun match to play?

So in all honesty this may not be a balance issue at all, but rather very poorly designed faction(s).

I can't believe they brought Emplacements back for the British after the lessons learned from COH1. But really the game has had major problems since WFA came out - forward retreat points are arguably one of the biggest mistakes they made.

Playing a fair few 3v3 ATs lately and OKW is very tough to deal with.