Profile of CookiezNcreem

tbh, Fam; idc about ur reply all that much.


0 ostheer 1v1s

0 ostheer 2v2s

no axis 2v2 AT's in the past century

no cred. nothing. Basically a 4v4 player telling me to l2p in a mode and situation youve actually never played. unbelievable. If anything, you're baiting me right now and ofc im taking it like the asshat i am.

Tiger I and IS-2 are the bars by which all other heavy tanks are measured. They've been in the game since the beginning and they are fine, susceptible to slight buffs or debuffs from time to time, but they are the quintessential heavies. You seem to think all should heavies should be these invincible, "one unit army" type things whereby you can leave it alone, unsupported, and suffer no consequences. That's just not how this game works. Every unit needs support and you can't expect a lone, isolated unit to live forever.

While you're on that topic, is it just me or does IS2 absoulutely poop on the tiger?

If the tiger was slow but had churchill like armor, then it would be be worth shit. right now its not bad but its definitely not allied level of strength unless its the Ace, which is the only tiger I see that actually does anything most times. which is sad.

Oh and as far as heavy tanks being able to take a beating... Pershing? Lol.

pershing is a medium for all intents and purposes, its more comparable to the comet and panther.

And the Panther is garbage?? What world do you live in where a tank with the absolute best armor in the game, high speed and mobility, and a great anti-tank cannon is considered "garbage?" About 3/4 of Allied armor has no chance of penetrating the frontal armor of a Panther, and even the tank destroyers and heavies will bounce frontal armor shots half the time as well. And btw, you can make the Panthers work against infantry when you do the same w/ the Jackson, SU-85, and Firefly.

High speed is the quickest way to death usually, what are you gonna use the speed for? running over mines faster while you over extend with your expensive ass panther? or for reversing away like the bitch that the panther is.

3/4 allied armor cant penetrate, well based off what i see, the following are a match for if not better than the panther

-Su76
-Su85
-T3485
-IS2
-Cromwell at closer ranges
-Firefly
-Comet
-Jackson
-Pershing
*churchill on closer maps

Back in the days when the panther was actually worth a shit, it was fighting against the shitty joke SU76 the lovely fun to use SU85, and the IS2, maybe some callin meta t34s with mark vehicle. Times have changed. the list of units that can challenge it have doubled. Not to mention allied infantry AT or mines that ALL 3 allied factions now have.

Tigers and Panthers "going down too fast." Ostheer has some problems, but this isn't it.

yes it is

Upgrade for 251, like Katikof said, with 3,7cm or with 7,5cm.

Why have that so it could be as wierd as the OKW flak half track? P3 better and kooler mang.

And holy shit the amount of replies.


@all of you saying light vehicles is what allows allies to break through, you might have a point, except USF late game is pretty much on par with Ostheer and then some with assuming Pershing or calliope commander. And early mid is still in USF favor because the Stuart would still be the best light vehicle, the p3 could again just prevent an allied player from just trolololol the entire map with one vehicle for the first 10 minutes... if you can't see that as a problem please literally play 2 games as Ostheer vs a top 100 USF UKF opponent. Please open your eyes..

@ those telling me to use incendiary rounds and what not, please stop. You made me laugh so hard this morning I farted. Again the people I play aren't braindead and don't drive their Stuart's in ass first or forget to pop smoke on their AEC.

ostheer dominated in 1v1 tournament? that must be some sort of joke. I work Sunday's so I usually miss the majority of the ESL casts.

I see 0 ways for Ostheer to beat quality AEC or m20+Stuart+ quad cheese. I do infact remember seeing a few replays of multiple AEC strats owning some poor Ostheer player, however, including the same thing happening to me. I constantly see allied pride posts over Ostheer players.
never any Ostheer win in the replay section. Everytime I check in a stream, Ostheer is getting murdered or barely hanging on.


seriously, who knows how to play Ostheer at a high level right now? Whoever and where ever you are can you please come out and shed some light.

1. size size size

2. if medbase is securely in range of mortar pits, either OKW dude got greedy and fucked himself or he is a noob getting his face pummeled in where mortar pit or no mortar pit, he is done for.

out of things you listed, only 120mm have some weight to them. but again, the medbase would not be reachable if the okw guy does not go for one minute shave.

1. poop poop poop. that map is the anti usf.

2, if thats the case its not really that impactful imo. If its out of range of enemy artillery its not that game breaking as a retreat point. Maybe if you showed me some minimap screenshots of battlegroup placement in 3s and 4s thats "forward retreat" but also out of range of arty i'd understand what you mean. But to me that sounds impossible unless the map is super massive, like general poop, But thats my opinion.

In 1v1 2v2 you simply cant have a safe retreat point thats also really close to the lines. Its punishable. In 4v4 on general mud, you might be able to put a battlegroup outside of calliope range somehow. So maybe im just missing something.

3? I DISAGREE. USF mortar halftrack pack howie combo was stronk as fuck vs LEIGs and battlegroup before calliope and still is

anyway
I think the best solution would be to have a different attribute pack with different stats and limiations in 3v3 4v4, like removing retreat points and lowering resources from caches and territory points, while increasing tech costs, but that wont happen. Feelsbadman

I would like to start by saying yes, i am a known usf fanboy. No, this thread isnt troll.

Ostheer and brits are my favorite factions after usf, i love these two because of theyre AMAZING combined arms design, their abilities and units, etc.

But thats not the point. I would like to bring up the question as to why ostheer cant be more like brits.

Not with more emplacements, dont get it twisted.
but with other things.

Ostheer and brits play very similarly, obviously not including emplacements, but there are key aspects missing in ostheers favor:

• Light vehicles
  The brits have the AEC, why can't ostheer have a panzer 3 that can self spot for all these suppport weapons and give recon or something? Why cant the 222's 20mm cannon at least scare an AEC or stuart away? Why does the 222 lose to a 3 man half health rifle squad with one AT nade? Does a luchs lose to one conscript? Does a stuart lose to one grenadier? Does the AEC lose to one volksgrenadier? Why is 222 getting rekt like this?
  
  Is the Panzer III model is bugged or something and thats why It hasnt been released? Can the puma come at 3CP? DO SOMETHING ABOUT THEIR VEHICLES, i think I heard ostheer's heart rate slowing as i type this.
  
  good lord, ostheer fails like boiled shit when light vehicles roll out and alot of it is because theyure just missing a counter play vehicle. Grens are fine, mg42 is fine, sniper is fine, mortar is fine, the paks great, the 250 is awesome, and the 222 gives great sight and utility.
  
  but holy shit, I cant use any of this when I have to worry about that ugly ass AEC/m20/stuart coming in and ruining it all in one go. This wasnt a problem when the stuart had 320 hp, or when the aEC was a piece of shiet. Do something about it. I can hear ostheers breath getting softer and softer. Listen to me relic.
  
  and Inb4 some nerd comes in here and tells me to plant a teller. Guess what, nerd, if I plant a teller and hes not an idjit, and he's top 50 and buys sweepers, then what? What if I finish the teller and an AEC comes flying out of nowhere and shoots my pioneers on top of the teller a second after I place it? Stfu. Mines dont counter shit.
  
• Unit and commander abilities
  
  The cromwell seems really strong vs ostheer armor, everything. I think because of the commander upgrade ability which allows you to literally attack move any target and get the first shot in because of the extended sight. If the Germans were known for their amazing tank commanders and coordination, why dont they have a tank commander upgrade that does a similar thing too? This would be a huge buff to the P4 vs sherman/cromwell matchup. The sherman has the penetration advantage and the cromwell has the first AND more accurate shot(s). So let the P4 have something. Right now its a piece of shit and a joke. And its really funny when it fights against comets and stuff, its like a T34-76 fighting an Abrams tank.
  
  
  the panther, why the fuck does the comet raep infantry the way it does, from 50 range and with phosphorus (AND THE COMMANDER UPGRADE ?) Meanwhile, the panther is basically ignored by infantry? give it some anti infantry ability please, this isnt 2013 anymore. The allies have stuff to kill panthers now.
  
  The panther is literally not shit now and its sad. It was funny at brit release but now its just said. Buff the panther.
  
  The tiger, reduce its range back to 40. that was a dumb idea. Just make it slow, give it actual armor, take blitzkrieg away and replace with KT spearhead abilty.(btw still not an OKW thread but fix that fucking ability on the KT its still worse than the main attack for some reason)
  
  My other gripe and final gripe, Brits get artilery cover+forward HQ anti infantry strafe+a recon ability(try it if you have the munitions), ok fine, why is sector artillery or stuka loiterSO SHIT in comparison? (this thread still isnt about OKW, but buff zeroing artillery too)
  
  I love these stalemate back-breaker abilities, they create awesome visuals and moments late game and, well break stalemates...but lets make them all equal, or nerf them all. whatever, but do something about it.
  
  
  
  Right now, ostheer is truly on life support(the panzerwerfer) and I think theyre about to die. So can we please do something and help ostheer out. I cant play them, and no one else will play them. And its a shame because I like them alot, theyre design is great, and so is there concept overall. Fix the power creep and buff them to be like brits please.
  
  
  endrant and thx