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Still subjective, especially so if you're throwing incomplete math at it.

For a Maxim, on field merging basically takes a conscript squad out of the fight, even if it brings the HMG up to full. Either way, a squad goes away, and if it's under fire, you risk losing the conscripts.

MG42
• Damage from 4.4 to 5
• Far accuracy from 0.1375 to 0.11
• Far cooldown from 0.8 to 0.85
• Suppression from 0.00159 to 0.00085
• Rate of fire near from 1.2 to 1.1
• Rate of fire far from 1.1 to 0.9
• Weapon horizontal traverse speed from 60 to 25
• Suppression modifier applied to suppressed targets from 0.5 to 1

+ 25% damage taken

There is no mention at all of an increase in desetup time. It has remained the same since last patch. It has a longer desetup than the Maxim, but that's just part of how it works.

MG42 still has a much wider arc, and a single burst still suppresses. Have units to protect it on the flank, or keep it farther back and in cover so that enemies have to run through a lot of fire from the units its supporting to get at it.

The MG42 is still just as vulnerable to being flanked as it was before it was buffed. However, now it will actually feel the effects of a proper flank if unsupported, instead of just unpacking (which again, has not changed) and moving a bit and resetting up while under fire to instantly suppress/pin something else.

And you know what, I'll even acknowledge that maybe this will hurt the MG42 more than intended. But even then I'll still agree these changes are in the right direction because if CoH2 had continued for any longer with the current balance scheme, the CoH2 community would not have survived. People are already leaving for many different reasons, and the MG42 balance and its ripple effect through all modes was one of them.

Too bad Grens can't do that, since Maxim has better survival, and can pack up quicker, therefore not having to sit on its ass while packing up and soaking incoming fire for longer.

Maxim was also hit by the 25% blanket damage increase for HMGs and Mortars. Since they didn't have an extra man added from their original default, this counts as a bigger nerf than there was to the survivability of the MG42.

If you want more survivability deploy that MG in cover, which can sometimes limit your arc or mobility, but that's the trade off. Otherwise, if you want to risk it being in the open for a better firing arc to hit more units you also risk higher damage, as it should be. Stop trying to use a valuable support weapon as a front line unit.

And grens have always had the rifle grenade and LMG. Both options to really lay in the damage from a distance. Even conscripts have to use Oorah and Petrol Bombs.

The MG42, especially in team games, was a huge problem that was turning games into a railroad of builds. Really looking forward to gameplay across the board.

Conscripts aren't as good for support anymore, since those AT nades will deflect off heavier armor where you need it.

I'm fine with SU-85 nerfs so long as they address other issues that made Soviet players rely so much on the SU-85. Namely the balance issues that led to Germans holding too much fuel too early, such as the MG42 balance addressed in this same patch.

For as bad as the SU-85 seemed, it was the only thing capable of stopping tank rushes, especially in team games.

By the time they reduce the SU-85 further, I suspect the T-34 will have enough of a buff.