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People are going to scream at me for this idea, but perhaps the "stopping power" of AT guns could be similar in concept to some other shooters. Not more damage, but instead if a tank is moving towards the AT gun, the shot causes a small bit of slowdown on hit.

This does require the addition of a new code and system to the game, which is problematic, but I really like the concept in other games.

Instead of straight damage, you have the potential for more shots on you if you charge straight at a gun.

However, the slow down isn't applied if the tank is moving away or sideways from the AT gun.

Eh, I can hope for DoW3 or CoH3.

Other, more reasonable, options are to increase the responsiveness of the AT gun in general. Also making it so that the crew not actively manning the gun are prioritized for damage and death, so that AT guns aren't interrupted so much when firing or moving, which causes the agonizingly long animation to move over and replace the downed crewman.

Also, I'd love to see the German infantry gun make an appearance, I love that little slugger when playing tabletop miniature games. And it'd make a nice early weapon team that can counter things like Scout Cars and T-70s.

It's 30 munitions. Only a little more resources than a grenade. And it's intended to be a long term add on to a tank. You should not, ever, expect it to work like a Grenadier LMG because there are already 2 MGs and a cannon on the tank.

On the receiving end, the additional DPS forced reactions from all angles works just fine. Turn your tank so that ALL 3 MGs on the tank face the infantry and it's a nightmare for a faction that's supposed to rely on infantry to soften up tanks.

It adds up just fine. If any more DPS is added, you'll see even more tank spam from Germans.

Top MGs do not need a buff at all, if anything, they need to remove it from some tanks to promote better combined arms.

Then, and only then, Nullist, will anyone consider your request to tone down the hypothetical Soviet constant one shot kills on Grens. Likewise, if they ever did get buffed, then they should definitely be removed as an upgrade option on anything except Panzer 4s, and StuGs.

You have to pick and choose, balance is a two way street here.

No offense to you, I but there are some significant whiners on both sides. I suppose we should call them to vocal minority. And for as much as you say Soviet players have been doing that, if you look at certain people on these and other forums there is a distinct contingent.

I'm fine with the IS-2 and ISU-152 now and I certainly don't want them blowing up anything in one shot, so whiners aside, if the data truly shows that the IS-2 one shot killing entire squads too frequently, then sure, give it a slight nerf. But there's still an overall balance issue, as I described.

Agreed on all counts Furyn.

The Panther is just fine right now.

In fact, with the addition of the top MG upgrade, it can even more easily handle infantry AT. I've posted elsewhere about removing the option for the top MG upgrade on the panther to force German players to support it more. And if all else fails, it has the option to crush infantry with its speed if it can find a road to accelerate on.

Lastly, although this is doctrinal, the Panther can use smoke launchers, allowing it an escape from many threats.

Say wait, wasn't the IS-2's scatter drastically reduced 2-3 patches ago?

It was part of a livestream too. I'd be willing to see the scatter increased by a small amount, should alleviate that problem.

But remember, for all the problems German players keep whining about 1-2 shotting infantry, Soviet players have had to deal with 2-3 shotting our tanks for a while now. German tanks have a lot of escapes, such as smoke launchers, and even the much more reliable panzerfaust.

Soviet tank survivabiliy, especially in the late game where they matter the most, is lacking against many sources from equal tiers, and not just from one doctrinal unit that is supposed to be powerful.