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I agree completely, but surely you can agree that this is down to dumb map designs more than anything? Of course on idiot maps like "The Port" with eight players and only 3-4 ways across parts of the map choke points are inevitable meaning flanks simply can't happen.

Skilled players are rewarded by flanking as per the games very design, but then the stupid map comes along and screws with all that. So why continuously go about changing the game when the maps should be clearly at fault is what I think.

If the map rotation moves more than once every two years, you get better balance, more life breathed into the game and obviously more variety in meta. Which seems like win-win for everyone.

Also you flout the OKW flame doctrine as being a solve to the issues like garrisons but it really isn't that simple. If as OKW you are picking that doctrine it is out of sheer desperation and the need to desperately clear some garrisons or something. You are essentially trading late game superiority like Command Panther/JT/Sturm Tiger for immediate gains.
It is big risk reward, where as every other team can just drop smoke of some kind and bamb. It's very effective against people who don't realise what is happening and keep trying to fight with garrisons but any skilled opponent just adapts and you lose out big. (Which I am not complaining about, but it is far from a good doctrine that really solves issues).

I mentioned the OKW commander cause it was not part of the original 6 commander loadout. Same case would be with USF. One "solves" an OKW early game weakness while still providing a relative good offmap (which OKW lacks) while the other is mostly for the cheese/nostalgic goliath. USF got early flamers with Rifle company and the last 2 commanders provided solid Rocket artilley and the other one Elite infantry with a medium-heavy tank.
Since this topic is mostly brought up due to the EFA/OKW mod, it's good to mention they are also gaining smoke.

Mapwise: Relic is not gonna bother making maps. Community map makers have already told several times that it takes WAY MORE WORK to do a 4v4 which can't really be tested (cause it requires 8 people minimum) so unless you pick already released community maps and polished them properly, forget about getting new ones.

Flanking maneuvers are also discouraged due to the nature of the mode.
On 1v1, a single player has to cover 2/3 VPs, munition/fuel points and several strategic points on their own, spreading thin his resources.
When you add players into the mix, you are adding potential of 100popcap of armies which have to contest the same amount of strategic points while resource gain remains the same. There is no such thing as "harass" the back line points rather than "I bring my whole army and pushing heavily one side".

A thing i realised after reading this thread: SOFT RETREAT seems to be out of the question.

The only need for FRP is for factions which had difficulty or doesn't have the tools to recover territory once they lose map presence. That is no longer the case for OKW (more so after mod) and probably USF/OKW with some updates.

WFA + UK don't need FRP to be relevant on most 1v1 and several 2v2 maps cause the time saved between base and FRP (safe position) is almost irrelevant. You can reinforce while moving outside of base and finish while getting near the Med HQ/FA. FA are not seen as much and major can also be skipped in favour of call ins.
For 3v3+, human wave tactics works better and small/individual/flank combat are less favoured. Add to that big long maps and you have the ideal scenario for them. Which makes the whole point of why 3v3+ is even more of a blobfest after WFA + UKF were introduced.

To reinfoce my point that they are no longer need, at least the current version of FRP: (you can skip)
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I prefer if there was a rework or given more handicaps to FRP instead of removing them (cause that would be harder to accept).
What i talk about is for example: cooldown, munition cost, deactivation of reinforcement while FRP is active, suppression forcing retreat back to base, etc.

Another alternative option:

Is it possible to make suppress/pinned squads to alternate between retreat points? Say, been on that stance forces you to go back to base instead of FRP?

Frp are important because they give more tactical options.

IF 1v1 > don't get it.
IF 3v3+ > always get it
IF 2v2 and map = big then get it, else don't.

On big 3v3+ maps FRP are no brainers. I'll rather have 3 Volks and a FRP rather than an extra squad. Because that extra squad means popcap and bleed, while the investment on FRP is a one time thing. The "but you are one down squad" means shit, if you are saving 60s x 3 the time it takes for those 3 squads to reinforce and get back into action. You will save mp due to lower popcap and you have the option to heal low health squads which haven't lost models.

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If FRP are staying then i think there are different ways to tackle the issue depending on which aspect you want to focus.

-Timing/tech:
Delay OKW's FRP to 2nd truck called/deployed. This put it barely on UKF forward assembly timing.

Anything else seems to involve hack like solutions which might bring more issues than resolving FRP.

-Interactive/micro:
As i've said in the past, why not make it a 60s ability, 3mins cd (values are just representative). Then you have to time your "retreats". You could add a munition cost to it.

Cons: it might incentivize more "human waves" attacks but this would had a bigger drawback is timed wrongly or the opponent is able to capitalise on this.
Prop: i think this should be the "easiest" to implement.

Alternative option:
-FRP is a 1min duration with 30s CD.
-While FRP is active and on cd, it lockdowns reinforcement on Med HQ and Forward assembly. Medics still work.

Lets see, I have owned and played this game since its release day in 2013. I have lived through the periods of no patch for 6 months when the game was totally broken. I can bet quite safely on the patch frequency of Relic. It will take at least 3 to 4 months for a follow up patch to get released, at the least that is.

And then you remember they said Winter balance patch around end of November, for it to be released on end of March (Spring).
That thing had already been co-worked with Relic from the beginning and still took 6 months from the initial setup in order for it to be released.

If Relics decides to inspire themselves and only use parts of this mods or others, then it's their own problem, not the modders themselves.
Unless you have some secret source, we don't know Relic's plans for the CoH franchise. I don't expect a patch from them unless they say they are actively working with someone from the community.