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The USF HT is clunky while moving.

The OKW HT is clunky while giving attack orders. IIRC you can no longer bypass the setup animation while giving attack orders (the setup bar on top of it is useless, bugged and misguiding)

So you if you analyse the situation:

-You have a unit which arrives pretty early.
-While it dies like any other HT in 2 hits, it has vet0 smoke.
-While it has smoke, is has a horrible setup mechanic with 0 use on the move.
-It will die to the USF HT even if it's already setup ahead of time.

What if:

Put it behind the medic upgrade.
Let it shoot on the move with HORRIBLE accuracy against infantry. It will be able to suppress like the USF HT and won't be able to get destroyed by clowncars.

08/19 Tech cost:

OKW:
340/5 (300)

Trucks: 100/15
Deployment: 200/25-45-120
Medic/Engineer: 100/15

1 Truck, 1 upgrade, Flak:
700mp 190/210f (-5f)
2 trucks:
1000mp/230f250
With both upgrades:
1100mp/245f265


USF
400/20 (200)

Upgrades: 150/15
Medic: 250/10 (2/3 popcap)
Officers: 200/35
Upgrade: 50/20
Major: 190/120

Weapon, nade, ambulance, 1 officer full, major:
990mp/215f (-20f)
Including both MG and AT gun:
1190mp/250f
Full roster:
1240mp/270f


SU:
390/20 (170)

Medics: 250
AT nade/Molotov: 80/10 - 125/10
T1: 160/10
T2: 160/20
T3: 240/85
T4: 240/90

Medics, T1, T3, T4:
890mp/185f (-20f)
T2 with conscripts upgrades:
1095/215f
Full tech:
1255/225f


OH:

420/20 (200)

T1: 80/10
BP1: 100/40
T2: 200/20
BP2: 200/90
T3: 140/15
BP3: 100/25
T4: 100/25
Medic: 150/0/60 (muni)

Medic, T3 (Ostwind rush):
590/145 (-20f) (+60mu)
With T1:
670/155
With T1+T2:
870/175
T1 + T2 + T4:
930/210
Full:
1070/235


UKF

340/20 (280)

Bolster: 150/35
Weapon: 150/15
Nades: 100/10
Platoon: 180/30
Side tech unit: 100/15
Company: 280/115
Anvil/Hammer: 200/50
Medics: 30mu x1 or 200mp/60mu

Bolster, nade, Platoon, side tech (or weapon), Company, healing:
810-860/205 (-20f) (+60muni)
Anvil or Hammer:
1010-1060/255
Full:
1160/270
Full + non meta healing:
1360/270 (+60muni)



PD: Notice how i didn't discount cost for starting fuel? It's only fair to discount if you also take into account manpower difference with starting unit into account.
If SU is the lowest faction denominator then:

Su: 560mp
USF: +40
OH/UKF: +60
OKW: +80

Edit:
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and btw to kat and all the other nay sayer , Hanibbal trying to prove me wrong saying okw doesn't pay for upgrades actually proved me right

fuel need to reach tank tier rushing

su 165

usf 165 (with ambulance)

ukf 125

okw 185 (with medic)

now if we add optional upgrade of the live patch

su 185 (at nade and molo)

usf 195 but has better weapon and smoke

ukf 185 weapon nades AND bolster, which is not even needed and is just a plus

conclusion okw pays the upgrade like all others (and ukf is actually the one that get free stuff)

to further add okw had even a mpre expensive full tech tree as they need to pay 60 fuel for mech and 15 more fuel for repair squad

And what's the manpower cost for that?
Include OH with medic bunker for sake of completitions as well.

I maintain that if comet and Churchill were limited to 1 and balanced according the UKF would be all the better for it. And before some goes "BUT PANTHERS!" fuck off. We're talking about ukf and can address panthers when we get there

+1

Comet been closer to Pershing and leaving the Churchill as is.