Profile of Hawk

Thanks everyone. I never would have thought to "attack move" a de-crewed weapon!

How are you guys dealing with it?

While I'm generally happy with where the game is after this patch the new Italian Coastal bg, IMO, is one of the worst things I've seen in CoH history. It takes everything that was bad about the Brit sim city strat in CoH2 and ramps it to 1000.

I've seen some good players use it well and creatively, but mostly I see (in 2v2/3v3) players spamming self building/healing/fortified bunkers across a map creating a huge force multiplier (with no impact on pop cap) that is amazingly difficult to break. Upgraded bombing runs don't destroy one of them, and even if it did, it's too expensive to rely on when they can simply point and click to create another one. On map is too inaccurate to destroy one in a single barrage so it generally repairs before the cool down is up unless you can hit it with a secondary source, and then again they just rebuild it instantly.

You can't approach with infantry because of the MG bunkers and you can't approach with tanks because of the PAK43 like AT bunkers.

The only thing that has worked for me so far is dominating them so badly early that they can't really get set up. That doesn't work in an actual competitive game. Similarly, if you can break a flank, you can often destroy a number of the bunkers until they send backup or get smart and create more bunkers facing your flank up the line which stops you cold.

Just curious how others allied players are faring against this?

I use pretty much the same strat for both 2v2 and 3v3. I play mostly Armored battle group, but this works with anything with some minor tweaks.

WSC start MG first with Assault Engineers. If you're spec ops you can replace the engies with Weasel. If I'm facing DAK, I'll go either another MG or zooks if I see a vehicle super early. If I do get that second MG, zooks are next. You have to have them to protect against the clown car.

If it looks like I'm facing Wehr I'll probably go sniper after that first MG instead of a second MG/zooks. Zooks are next to useless against Wehr IMO. They're horrible vs. infantry (with the exception of the phosphorous rocket at Vet1) and I don't usually see impact vehicles as quick against them so I can wait for T3 or pop zooks later.

As an aside, I love the weasel for early capping and support. It's so easy to get it to Vet1 too, then you can tuck it somewhere for free early heals or just drop it back at your base and not have to build a med center.

I've been using mechanized upgrade a lot recently and getting a quick quad. They do a good bit of damage to infantry if you're careful with them and they can at least slow down the Flak HT if you're careful so it can help you hold your ground better. If you have any fuel income you can get it in 4-5 minutes. Plus Luftwaffe is such a common pick that it really comes in handy later for shooting down skill planes. You can still get it pretty quick without mechanized, but you need to hoard the munitions for the upgrade.

Don't sleep on AT's from T3 (or AB drop.) Hellcats are awesome and I use the heck out of them, but a well placed AT or two can mean the difference between holding ground or getting pushed back into your base before your T4 goes up. Chaffee's are nice, but they struggle against the range of Marders or massed Jaeger inf. Zooks cannot hold against anything beyond light vehicles. They're great against unsupported marders but that only happens against bad teams... I've also been using mortar pits a lot recently. I find them to be far more effective than the mortar team and they're pretty cost effective to set up.

Once I get to T4, it's Sherman 105's and Hellcats. This is where armor company shines with the MP and pop cap reductions for vehicles. I can get those shermans and hellcats out quicker and support more of them.

The drawback to all of this is that your WSC play has to be on point. It's not as forgiving as rifles. I don't like putting my MG's in buildings anymore. It's too easy for sturmpios to walk right up the center of fire of your MG and burst it out with a flamer. I try to keep my MG's moving and set them up to engage/cover each other. If you just leave them sitting somewhere they will get wiped out. Quad/M8/M24 all need a health amount of babysitting to be effective.

I struggle the most against DAK and am still working out how to deal with some of their stuff myself so, good luck.

My partner and I usually play split USF/Brit. We're really struggling in the early game with 2X DAK matchups. Feels like the pgren blob/250 > AC/Halftrack is overpowering and we can't maintain decent map control. Fall behind on resources and then get swarmed by P3's before we can make enough tanks to fight back.

We've tried emphasizing suppression and/or rushing to Stewarts/M8/Chaffee but at best we end up stalemated for a bit and at worst we lose too much ground too early. Rushing BAR's for USF helps against infantry, but just delays vehicles so when the halftrack/AC hits it owns the map.

Just curious how others are handling this.

Thanks

Can anyone recommend some good 2v2 high level replays? Preferably competitive games where Allies win but as long as it's a high level close game I'd appreciate it.

Thanks