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Thread: Penal Battalion anyone?10 Mar 2014, 14:23 PM Jump back to quoted post10 Mar 2014, 13:13 PMJHeartless Ok so we have a unit that costs 360 MP Can take on 320 MP Assault Grens Can take on 240 MP 60 Muni Grens with 6 pop cap that costs 90 MP to fully reinforce if AT range in cover or with Vet DPS at mid is 19ish. At Mid takes about 4 seconds to kill a Penal entity dropping DPS. They cost 150 MP to fully reinforce or if using merge 100 MP to reinforce and have a 9 pop cap. DPS at mid is 18.87. Takes about 6 seconds to kill a Gren enity with a full squad to drop their DPS. As you can see Penals are going to lose entities first which will snowball them into complete loss. Pgren DPS at Mid 22. YEAH nothing wrong there what should we expect? Thank you for studying the spreadsheets, man. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Penal Battalion anyone?10 Mar 2014, 05:18 AM Jump back to quoted post9 Mar 2014, 21:30 PMiTzDusty 1. Any strat using penals that has to rely on conscripts is ineffective, considering the need to tech for molotovs/AT nades to make the unit half decent. Also keep at range but flank? Choose one. 1.1 Merged models don't get SVTs, so that apparent high DPS that can somehow take out G43s Grens (Really, try Penals sometime, they can't) isn't happening with merge. Regardless, it is completely obvious that Penals are an overpriced, underperforming unit. I've been playing with them solely for the past two weeks daily, and you either give up a ridiculous amount of map control, or you rely on a similarly underpowered Partisan doctrine, you are at a severe disadvantage using Penals instead of typical PPSH conscript spam. I think it is effective. Conscripts are the backbone, remember? Saying what you say would be like Ostheer only going for PGrens (price wise). But it's all about how you choose to play the game, I guess. I am not gonna interfere with that. And yes, merging keeps up the DPS, because conscripts will get SVT's. Also, who says a flank has to be executed by standing right next to the flanked enemy unit? Don't be so tunnel sighted. Even if you go in close, and have munitions on the bank, you can throw a satchel at stationary targets, to devastating effect. Or just stand back at mid/far range and shoot them down, also killing on retreat because of high range effect. Be creative man... I would say you try Penals yourself, since you do not seem to know much about about them... In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Penal Battalion anyone?9 Mar 2014, 16:56 PM Jump back to quoted post9 Mar 2014, 16:17 PMLast of the Catachan Why are penal battalions good at medium to long range 1)Most of them won't live for long, so waste of training 2)Why give them a satchel charge and flame thrower which are close to short range weapons makes no sense 1) Maybe if you tried using them as long range units with a buffer inbetween or in cover, you would recognize their value in long range combat. Don't charge the enemy with them. Flank, use them to support... 1.1) Just merge them with conscripts, you can keep up dishing out DPS while your foe has to retreat. Unless he can reinforce via HT or Bunker. 2) Because it makes them flexible. After a good flank, they can blow Jerry to hell. Sure, the unit design may not be as straight forward or clear to some, as in shocktroops or guards. But they can have their place if included in your overall strategy. You don't have to use them if they don't suit your playstyle. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Penal Battalion anyone?9 Mar 2014, 15:41 PM PGrens excel? They are a unit with high reinforce and a 120 munitions upgrade and a 45 munitions bundle grenade that hits hard or not at all, whilst coming out of T2 and also being very squishy while fighting other units. Once that second man dropped, it is wise to retreat them. Or else you lose a lot. If they had higher armor value, maybe we could discuss this further. But comparing the two is ridiculous. Penals can still be merged with conscripts while losing nothing at all, except for the reinforce cost of conscripts. And that satchel works on buildings and weapon teams and halftracks spinning in circles becasue of pathing. Guaranteed. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Penal Battalion anyone?9 Mar 2014, 15:00 PM Jump back to quoted post9 Mar 2014, 14:51 PMKatitof They are a squad that is suppose to excel at long/mid range combat and building clearing, they fail miserably at first part for their cost. What do you expect to get for 360? Instant squad wipes versus german troops. Like there is not enough of that already. Their long to mid range damage is fine. They can take on G43 grens when in cover and with vet and melt away Assault grens like butter when using a buffer of conscripts inbetween and great for flanking suopport weapons... what more do you want? In: COH2 Gameplay
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Thread: Crossing in the Woods - Waypoint at Enemy HQ.4 Mar 2014, 11:21 AM It has happened to me, also. Didn't notice until I lost a Panther that drove right in to the enemies defensive line... it sucked. In: COH2 Bugs
Thread: Ingame drops2 Mar 2014, 21:16 PM It's a very odd situation. Yesterday, for example, I was able to play 7 games without interference. Then, the next four games I dropped for no reason. The game is unplayable for me, I do not know what to do... it happens everyday. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Ingame drops2 Mar 2014, 02:23 AM It'S a 32mb connection, I use cable. So no wireless and such. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Ingame drops2 Mar 2014, 01:53 AM So, no one with dropping problems? In: COH2 Gameplay