Profile of rumartinez89

Imo penals should not have lost sprint. Just removed the flamer and went from there. Sprint is the stock staple for soviets. Imo a shame they lost it.

Penals dont have a nade that actualy works vs anything but buildings so they wont get easy wipes with sprint and good nades.

The insane stopping power of the mg42 and 34 can handely counteract sprint if properly placed. And sprint was vet locked for them.

Yea, its a shame since Penals with PPSH+Sprint could have been an interesting option as they get a lot unlocked at Vet2. I think a good compromise would have been locking out sprint if AT upgrade was unlocked as they can engine crit everything short of a Heavy tank.

Just imagining penals with sprint, 2 flamethrowers and a satchel charge. Yeah that's a fucking badass unit right there.

I think they removed it back in 2017, they got one of the heaviest nerfs as they made several changes.

Increased POP - makes sense
Received ACC dropped to .85 - for the reinforcement cost, bad idea
cheaper satchel VET3 - Useless
Lost Oorah - seems to be overnerf if losing Target size, Oorah would help with picking engagement
Lost flamethrower - makes sense, made them to strong
Gained AT upgrade

Overall it was a massive nerf that dropped them almost to irrelevancy. The worst part is the most recent infantry patch drops some ACC vet for REC ACC when they should have had it the entire time. I think most players would give up the cheaper Satchel and get the lost ACC back. This would help with scaling as Flames plus Oorah was the issue not SVT damage.

I still think OKW has the best Theoretical Design since it perfectly encapsulates the spirit of late Wehrmacht army: very experienced veterans with little technical means so scavenging becomes really important.

If the bonus were, say, 40fuel and 90muni it would be way better since it actually makes sense to risk your squad's life for faster tank production. In its current iteration, it's meaningless.

I agree to some extent, but the application is lacking. I feel like it would have been better if scavenging helped unlock upgrades. The original P4J, when it came as a part of a 2-pack had horrible turret rotation. It would have been cool if scavenging unlocked a turret upgrade so it felt worth it to risk infantry while making it vital to destroy wrecks to keep it out of OKW hands.

Add ratte yes or no then?

Wouldn't it be better to compare the Black Prince to the Maus as both were prototyped but never saw action? They at least got something in a museum so they are both not fiction.

Strangely enough I did have an opponent in automatch recently who tried really hard to do this with an M10, as their kind of 'opening play' rushing it before any other vehicle. Needless to say, it didn't work very well.

If Rumartinez says it got heavily nerfed in the past perhaps it makes a bit more sense. Possibly someone who hadn't played the game in a long time? It was weird.

From april 2017

M10

We find that the M10, which is a highly cost-efficient tank hunter is overperforming with respect to how it deals with infantry due to its potency to crush squads. Therefore, we are taking steps to remedy this, without, however, affecting M10’s mobility.

Chassis rotation rate reduced from 38 to 32
Turret rotation rate increased from 30 to 36 to compensate

It was a really weird Tank destroyer as it was made for flanking but it’s turret rotation was straight ass. So to win matchups you had to spam and blob so enemy tank would get stuck and your turret could finally turn around and kill it.

My guess is the player probably tried to drive straight thru your squad instead of turn over top of them. That was the trick, back then a small change in direction would initiate the crush and since they turned so quickly opponent had no chance to react.

Reading thru some of the old balance changes you can kind of see why certain units struggle. Penals/Rifleman got some heavy nerfs that were partially reversed for specifically Wehrmacht infantry scaling.