That Su85... no comment. It fucks me up so hard when playing Ostheer, every freaking time! I gonna have a break until a patch arrives, can't see it anymore.
I just had a game where SU85 countered my PAKs... several times!! It destroyed the whole gun. In one situation there were 2 SU85s vs 2 PAK 40s at max range. Result: 1 SU85 destroyed and 2 PAks completely destroyed.
The major thing about the SU85 being so powerful, despite all the legid arguments that the SU85 is so extremely fast, way too cheap etc, is that it basicly NEVER misses because of its narrow scatter. It's so narrow that it even destroys PAKs at max range, whereas the PAK misses quite alot at max range cause it has a "normal" scatter.
You don't believe me?
Here are some scatter values for comparing.
Elefant:
"angle_scatter": 7.5,
"distance_scatter_max": 10,
STUG:
"angle_scatter": 7.5,
"distance_scatter_max": 6.5,
PAK 40:
"angle_scatter": 7.5,
"distance_scatter_max": 10,
SU85:
"angle_scatter": 5,
"distance_scatter_max": 7.5,
SU76:
"angle_scatter": 5.5,
"distance_scatter_max": 10,
ZiS-3 76mm:
"angle_scatter": 7.5,
"distance_scatter_max": 10,
As you can see the sactter angle of the SU85 is the most narrow, combined with a the lowest max scatter distance results in the SU85 hitting everything.
It's right there, Relic, change it already. That unit is simply OP by all means, it completely kills the late game.
Until a urgently needed patch arrives...
Regards
ace