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Thread: Unbiased Balance Proposals top 100 Both Factions19 Aug 2013, 14:00 PM Jump back to quoted post19 Aug 2013, 12:57 PMNullist As to capability of the Ost army to deal with Maxims, this is mirrored by Sovs Oorah, Molotov, M3s with/out Garrison and Shocks Nade. This is a false argument. This isn't even argument. I build HMGs to deny space and stall attacks. The maxim MG fails at this job, therefore I don't build it. I don't build HMGs for DPS purposes, because there are other units that are better at DPS. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: how we exactly counter sniper and guard spam combo 19 Aug 2013, 11:31 AM Jump back to quoted post6 Aug 2013, 14:35 PMManOwaRR its seems very annoying to counter this the only good counter we have against Russian 2 man sniper is scout car which can be killed in 2 shoot by guards ? Keep your units on field and together (!), secure a couple of relevant points. Once scout cars are undone the Soviet has hilariously little staying power and you can simply shove him from the map. You know that you failed when he has 2/3rds of the map and starts shoving T-34s into your face. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: 75% play as german, yet soviet units are OP?19 Aug 2013, 11:24 AM Jump back to quoted post18 Aug 2013, 12:58 PMCruzz Yes, I remember exactly how combined arms never worked in CoH1 where all the vehicle manpower costs were far higher. You can't compare MP costs between CoH1 and CoH2, because in CoH1 your MP gain is a function of points held, whereas the MP income in CoH2 is constant and decreases the more units you have on the field. This is pretty substantial and from my experience leads to a MP bottleneck in the later stages of the game, where you can decide to get EITHER infantry OR vehicle but not both. It was less so in CoH1. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: 2v2 Ostheer Mid-Late Game Help19 Aug 2013, 11:17 AM Jump back to quoted post19 Aug 2013, 11:05 AMMoonHoplite Doctrines with either tactical movement (helps for gren and PGren advance), elephant or tactical smoke are needed. PIV spam fails most of the time if you don't faust the su85. PIV spam is really more like "I build two PzIV in base and don't move out and spam him with Panzergrens instead so he doesn't build more than one SU-85 and then I buttrape it." In: Lobby
Thread: Unbiased Balance Proposals top 100 Both Factions19 Aug 2013, 11:06 AM Jump back to quoted post19 Aug 2013, 04:20 AMNullist HMGs are also a force multiplier, due to DPS. I don't build HMGs to "multiply my force". You're better off getting another Guard Rifle with SMG upgrade or a Sniper. Especially maxim HMGs are simply not useful when its "just about DPS", they require too much micro and aren't flexible enough so in the end they deal less effective DPS than other units from all the repositioning and pressing the retreat button. Add that to the fact that the entire german army is equipped to gracefully deal with maxims, bundle nades, gren nade from the edge of the maxim's attack range, FLHTs, scout cars... The same is true for the german HMG but the wider arc obviously helps to actually get that damage on the target. Still, I don't build MG42's just so they can rape infantry, I use them to deny space and stall advances. If I want to deal damage I equip a Gren with an LMG or use a Pgren. That is why HMGs that don't supress are useless. Just like tanks that can't kill other tanks. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: RNG has too much of an impact on games19 Aug 2013, 11:01 AM Jump back to quoted post18 Aug 2013, 14:35 PMVonMecha Whatever the case, the obvious point is the gameplay feels drastically different and less satisfying. Units feel like they rely more on luck than being a capable, trained and equipped fighting entity.In coh if you had an at gun, YOU HAD ANTI TANK. In coh 2 an at gun can be effective with luck or it will be a cannon-fodder manpower sink most likely. Blehh. I just had a game where a Faust missed my Scout Car two times in a row. He got lucky on some grenades in turn, instagibbing two Conscript Squads. It is a form of balance! In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Mark Target OP19 Aug 2013, 10:56 AM Jump back to quoted post18 Aug 2013, 02:04 AMBlovski Eh, having Mark Target around radically increases the viability of all things which aren't SU-85s, which is a good thing. +1! In: COH2 Balance
Thread: 2v2 Ostheer Mid-Late Game Help18 Aug 2013, 12:32 PM Jump back to quoted post18 Aug 2013, 12:30 PMtalarfon Rhzev, minsk, priypat come to mind where it's had to exploit the non turreted su. On the flip site that is also the place where those doctrinal artillery pieces shine. In: Lobby
Thread: RNG has too much of an impact on games18 Aug 2013, 12:17 PM This is a very valid topic. I too feel that the RNG has a bigger impact on the game. Whether that is due to actual different numbers or related to the more chaotic nature of the game compared to CoH1 is open to debate. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: 2v2 Ostheer Mid-Late Game Help18 Aug 2013, 12:09 PM To deal with SU-85s: - Flanking Pgrens - Spam PIVs - Build the howizers. - Elephant. In: Lobby