Profile of rofltehcat

In R.U.S.E. the japanese faction was full of science fiction tanks which never existed in reality or only on paper.

Same for Men of War. Playing Japanese in MoW is still a lot of fun because the tiny tanks can still mess up a lot of expensive equipment, simply by good flanking and low cost. But after a while they'd really get stomped if they didn't have prototype tanks that are somewhere between Panther and Tiger in design and strength. They also have a few units that are basically copies of German weapons, like a 88 Flak.

Nice data, Milka! Are the enemyDPS/PGrenDPS values normalized for cost or would I need to factor in the cost myself?
For example: Rifles vs. Pgrens, 280/340 = 0.824; so basically I'd do 0.40/0.824 = 0.485; Which means that at their most effective range, for cost, they are slightly more effective than two squads of rifle men. Of course at longer ranges (or closer ranges) their effectiveness is lower.

Not trying to make any points or so, just contemplating about factoring unit cost into those effectiveness comparisons.

For me:
1) Currently not playing and thus not active in the community (tech running wonky atm, also waiting for next patch to fix it)
2) Wouldn't come very far: I think many players may not want to go through the effort to join tournaments when they can't really win anything. Maybe hand out a few goodies to many (not to all but also not too few) contestants, no matter of their placement as long as they actually participated and played their matches. (It probably wouldn't motivate me a lot but maybe others.)

You oversimplified it but basically, yes.

Explosions have a near radius (1.5 for the mine), a far radius (2.5) and a ... radius? radius... let's call that one max radius (5.0).
Inside the near radius, they have a very high accuracy (5.0) and deal full damage (1.0 multiplier). Then between the near and far radius, the accuracy and damage multipliers decrease linearly down to the far value multipliers (0.6 accuracy, 1.0 damage, so for mines only accuracy decay, no damage decay). Between the far radius and max radius the multipliers are once more static at the far values.

So some of the other entities will have a higher chance to die than in your example (short unreliable calculation: everything inside ~2.4 still has 100% chance). The only ones save are the ones more than 5 m (yards? feet?) from the explosion's center.
Squad formations are really important for this. But the missing damage multiplier decay on mines increases the squad wipe chance by a lot. Other explosions normally have a 0.25 damage multiplier at far range. With that, the odds of survival would be a lot better, even with the mine's high base damage.


I understand why the mines have this behaviour: In the beta mines were kind of unreliable (could "miss" or not deal full damage) and the damage multiplier "fixes" that problem. It is a good band aid to fix those vehicle-related problems but it leads to horrible maiming of infantry.

Panzergrenadiers are extremely potent when they can just roll through everything without being focus fired. So they need to advance around a sight blocking obstacle or catch something like an MG from behind.

If there is a battle and Panzergrenadiers are advancing from longer ranges than right around a corner or something, you can focus fire them with all of your infantry and thus force them to retreat before they walk through your conscripts. Their armor and HP are the same as normal Grenadiers' and while they are advancing they don't have cover, sometimes even negative (red) cover.

I understand how they can be seen as "too strong" when they can get a flanking route that protects them from rifle fire or if they catch a Maxim or AT gun or a lone capping conscript squad while your attention is elsewhere.
However, when you pay attention they can be countered pretty easily because they are basically "glass cannons". If you are spread out and they run for one conscript squad, you can even use that one to throw a molotov, then use Oorah and run away while your other 2 conscript squads focus the PGrens.

Another thing that helps against them are grenades, satchels and molotovs (area denial through flame effect is great!). If you throw one of those in their path, they will lose a lot of their firepower because they will have to dodge (giving you more time to focus fire them) or will lose some men.


If they are massed, this means you can put a massive manpower strain on your enemy with vehicles (when there are no Schrecks), a sniper or a maxim. Remember you don't need to kill all of them. Your enemy has to retreat them the moment they drop down to 2 men or he risks losing the whole squad.