I don't see any sign of "hate" in the original post. What I see is constructive criticism with a healthy dose of sarcasm, and if the devs can't take that, they should switch over to a job which wouldn't require them to interact with the public (note that the public in this case = potential paying customers).
There are good ideas and gameplay elements in COH2, but at the moment, the majority of vanilla COH vets are not satisfied with it and we have been offering ideas and expressing our discontent to the devs in the most civil way possible, especially in comparison to rabid fans of other game franchises.
Of course the devs will come to ignore any criticism since they have a small but significant number of fanboys jumping up to their defense every time a new thread pops up and screaming bloody murder. "Try writing positive feedback" - the hell does that mean? So any other kind of feedback has to be ignored by Relic? Is that statement supposed to be objective? And how does that improve the game exactly?
If you think schmoeing up to the devs will accomplish anything, please, do go on. Customers nowadays are not as naive as they were before, if they don't like a sequel to a game, most of them will just ignore it. Some will buy it in order to be faithful to the franchise or in hopes of it getting better down the line. But if COH2 does not live up to the expectations (see: sales) because of the devs acting all high and mighty, chances are they'll be let go by Sega and the franchise will die. Simple as that.
It is also well known and has to be reiterated many times apparently that the majority of the current Relic developers DID NOT WORK ON THE ORIGINAL COH. You are placing your trust on people who have not proven themselves yet.
Oh, and do try to keep bullying to a minimum... "If you don't want CoH2 to succeed, you're better off leaving the forums." - gimme a break...
I felt that the original poster expressed ill-intent with his writing, not constructive criticism. Most of it seemed to be simply criticism.
I understand that most of the vCoH players are not content with the current state of CoH2, and there has been plenty of civility. I did not find much civility in this post, mostly a negative generalization of how the game currently is followed by a majority of the issues that have been brought up previously in a number of threads. There is no reason to restate what has already been stated and is currently being discussed elsewhere (
this thread, for example). If you want to express your opinion, go right ahead, but this thread seemed to focus on the bad aspects of CoH2 without offering how to fix any of the problems. As Tycho stated, some of the issues with the game are valid, and these are currently being discussed in other threads.
I'm not quite sure how believing someone wrote a bad-mannered post immediately makes me a fanboy. If you look at any other thread that talks about CoH2 issues and Relic, I don't 'jump to their defense'. There are issues with the game that need to be sorted out before launch. Repeating them with a generalization of the game being cartoony solves nothing. As for positive feedback, I agree that I was not clear with what I meant; writing anything that points out an issue and a potential solution, or a new issue that hasn't been discussed previously, would constitute what I believe to be 'positive feedback'.
I'm not quite sure how I'm schmoeing up to the devs, either. I haven't talked to a single Relic developer whatsoever, nor have I written anything that would be pointed at them.
Success and happy customers does equal sales, that is true, and players will not buy games that they dislike. However, I don't know why you think the developers are acting 'high and mighty' and are ignoring criticism. Do you have any specific feedback or articles from the developers saying they aren't going to listen to their playerbase? The game is in beta and has only been seen before by those that were in the alpha, which was different from how the game is currently. Updates have been released addressing the most pressing issues in the game (mortars, flamethrowers, tank imbalance, weapon team imbalance, etc). Maybe they aren't listening, although I have no way of knowing whether they are or not. Please let me know if you have concrete evidence as to what they are doing.
I believe most members of the forums understand that they aren't the same developers. They are still developers, though, and have released good games even if they may not have worked on the original CoH. SEGA paid a large amount of money to buy them, I imagine they have enough merit to make a decent game.
Bullying is not my intention. I was simply stating that if someone does not care to be constructive or help make the game better, coming here and complaining does not solve anything nor make anyone happy.
I apologize if I misinterpreted the original post and did any harm whatsoever. I want the CoH2 community to be a warming, welcoming, and positive place, and my intention was never to upset others. I did not feel that this thread helped to achieve that.
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