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Thread: Maxim Overperforming17 Sep 2019, 18:34 PM Jump back to quoted post17 Sep 2019, 14:55 PMmrgame2 just make maxim mg34 clone. boring if that is what you want. i dont know, i seen maxim plays really effective. eh just dont use it like axis mg... Then they should not have tried to make it like an axis mg without ap rounds. The old maxim was mobile fast. But lacking in supression if any. But was suposed to be about dps. Its arc however so small inf could walk out of it with no model dropping. It just added dps to cons wich was very very poor. And the maxim needed baby sitting. Then they added supression. This combined with its mobility made it broken op. Its golden days. Replacing inf completly. And keeping new volks in check. Now its mobility is severely nerfed and people have trauma,s that it could surpress. If it could supress it wont be spammed imo, its mobility was gutted. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Maxim Overperforming17 Sep 2019, 05:25 AM Its "lower" survivability is what keeps it balanced. The squad gets supressed, not some models in it. Inf get rec acc with vet. That is what probably let supression kick in later. If the enemy spreads his squads out over the entire arc. He should be able to beat/force off an mg esp an unsupported one. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Maxim Overperforming17 Sep 2019, 04:13 AM The mg 42 does not need a mid or late game buff. It has great suprssion, strong vet ability, good dps, big arc, is t0. The brumbar excists, pgrens come earlier and are vetted most likely when rifles and sections get upgrades, ostwind has been buffed in its ai role. So again no the mg42 needs no buff what so ever imho. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Maxim Overperforming17 Sep 2019, 01:28 AM Jump back to quoted post16 Sep 2019, 22:10 PMBalanced_Gamer For USF MG I would say make it 5 man but takes slightly longer than it is now to set up in order for it to be balanced. Maxim make it 5 man first, increase suppression and also increase slightly its set up time. Performance improvement and changes in order to avoid this spam-able feature. See how it all goes. At least they would get a benefit from retreating better and performance wise. I would not touch the .50 other then rec acc of 1.25 down to 1.0. I read that its retreat acc is also worse. Dont know if that is true but if it is normalize it. Like i had worries about shreck blobs returning. Some have worries about maxim spam returning. But if the maxim capable now you dont need to spam them to get them to do their job. Unlike now and way in the past. For maxim first drop its price to 240mp. Imo there is nothing that justifies a 260 mp price tag plus tech. Its setup is not much quicker then mg42. Its unpack is faster. Nerfing setup is not needed. Adjust its rec acc to 1.0 to soften the deathloop. Or increase it supression and aoe supression so nading or deathlooping it frontaly with a single squad is not possible anymore. Adjust traverse if it becomes to good at stopping spread out squads on the outer edges of the arc aproaching it. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Maxim Overperforming16 Sep 2019, 14:15 PM Jump back to quoted post16 Sep 2019, 13:48 PMBalanced_Gamer The only reason why is because it does not suppress well enough. Making a 4 man with an increase in supression would be balanced. Deadthloop would no longer cease to exist. It would be similar to USF 50cal MG. That does not have a deathloop at all and that is fine for a 4 man suppressing well. Would definitely be fine for Maxim too to be 4 man. Btw, all models for MG have the same received accuracy! You cant make it 4 men without removing the deathloop or nerfing the potency of axis inf. It will be even more easely wiped then it is already when flanked. And a flank does not need to garantee a wipe. Because right now a flanked mg34/42 has a far larger change to escape when flanked then a maxim ever will as long as the deathloop remains. Imo the maxim fails at supressing and doing damage. I had 2 pfussies g43 vet3 very close together frontly deathlooping it. It supressed 1 as the aproached. The gunner died and it got wiped. And i paid 260mp plus tech for something so ineffective compared to the counterparts. The maxim fails at supressing quickly enough and enough squads, it fails at killing models. Its not notably faster at redeploying. And it defenitly fails at being more durable wich is 1 of its 2 defyning feutures because of the fricking deathloop. We could adjust the rec acc for maxim alone to soften the deathloop a bit. Put it at 1.0 instead of 1.25. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Maxim Overperforming16 Sep 2019, 00:33 AM Jump back to quoted post15 Sep 2019, 19:55 PMgbem disagree here... okw has the best time against the maxim as it can barely suppress a single volk heading straight for it... when i play okw and i see a maxim spam i usually smile with glee because i know im very much likely to win the game and get +5 fuel for every maxim the opponent has made I so much wanted to insert a pic of either doc evil or agent smith,s evil laugh. Representing okw. But i am on my phone and it wont bite. Allas. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Maxim Overperforming15 Sep 2019, 10:35 AM Jump back to quoted post15 Sep 2019, 08:27 AMmrgame2 Other examples, allies mg have higher damage potential, grens will drop models faster further lowering dps. Allies infantry are better at wiping retreating wehr squads, leave wehr more vulnerable. While consript is easy example to cite but they are now given plenty possibilities after request. Supplement them with other allies infantry ftw. Hence i have to remind where wehr stand now. Poor scaling, worst faction late game imo. Speaking mainly as soviet player here. Ost just need to retreat on time. The are not good in outlasting the enemy. They do however have better dps and synergy between units. Dont stay if you know you will loose that fight. Most allied squad esp sov and usf have their optimal range at short to mid. So getting 2 or the last model(s) on retreat is less likely. Ive seen on many occasions volks obers and grens wiping the last model on retreat at max range. So allies need to retreat on time as well. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Maxim Overperforming15 Sep 2019, 07:29 AM Jump back to quoted post15 Sep 2019, 07:17 AMgbem although the pgren nukenade is simply amazing at wiping stuff... the riflenade is damn unreliable for both the shooter and the reciever Yes true its a bit rng, but they are the reason i dont put my mg,s in yellow cover anymore. Those one shotted them there to often. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Maxim Overperforming15 Sep 2019, 07:14 AM Jump back to quoted post15 Sep 2019, 06:19 AMmrgame2 as a wehrboo 2v2 player. every buff to maxim,vickers,50cal makes it even harder. because grens are not as good in flanking at all vet levels vs all vet levels allies mg. the same cannot be said against mg42 against the type of allies infantry. hence i have suggested to mod team mg42 needs a small buff in either tear down or setup time on vet. this is to equalise in mid-late games. The grens and pgrens both have excelent nades to cripple or outwright wipe even a 6 machine gun. Pgrens are the ones you use for flanking. Pgrens do a way better job anihalating an mg they flank then cons or penal will do vs mg42/34. Rifles and tommies will do well simmaler to pgrens. So i dont think the mg42 needs any buff what so ever. Imo its already a very good mg. It need something(s) to be bad at for balance sake. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Shrecks. Blobbing in 2v2s and above15 Sep 2019, 06:56 AM Jump back to quoted post14 Sep 2019, 23:27 PMGrim I think making the Maxim halfway decent would fix a lot. At the moment T2 still isn't worth risking for USSR. T2 is usefull whenever i go a doctrine with dushka. I skip the maxim then and get a mortar instead. The maxim imo just is not worth 260mp and the tech cost. Its supposed to be sort of mobile mg and and suppression platform. Imo doing both jobs inaduqately. It was made more expensive to reduce spamming in its golden days. Now thats the only thing left unchanged. In: COH2 Balance