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Thread: WC 51 Changes24 Aug 2020, 17:25 PM Jump back to quoted post24 Aug 2020, 15:47 PMA table Crew needs to go first, and its ability to capture points without a garrisoned infantry squad. Anything else after that is simply to put it in line. I would keep arty and mark target, as a personal prefference. The last thing this game needs is "putting in line". Already a lot of units have been recolored and reworked to be copies of another unit on the opposite side. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: WC 51 Changes24 Aug 2020, 10:59 AM Jump back to quoted post24 Aug 2020, 10:39 AMmr.matrix300 "I dont understand this discussion, it is one of the most overperforming single units in 1v1. Lower its range, take away its late game abilities and it would still be viable" - A player who is rank 3 with USF in 1 vs 1 ( and top 5 with every other faction ) But ofc someone who doesn't play axis and someone who doesn't even play the game at all feel the need to defend the WC 51 ... I'm not defending WC51. In any mode other than 1v1, it's quite fine. I don't play 1v1 so I'm not going to judge whether it's OP there or not. I'm stating that there is a lot of complaining from both Axis and Allies players about the OPness of some units (which are not OP). Is WC51 OP in 1v1? Maybe.. doubt it's OP, perhaps cheese at some points. OP would mean that playing this unit would definitely help you snowball late. That's what OP means. OP units need hard nerfs and are usually due to wild patches that address it's UPness. From UP to OP. WC51 is not OP in any regard by it's stats or timing. It's cheese same as it's cheese early on to play vs snipers. Or Kubel spam. Or Volks vs IS on maps that favor IS with range and cover. Strong != OP. Cheese != OP..... which is reflected in the poll. (except those that want to nerf multiple things, that's clearly whereaboos). You do know there are other modes besides competitive? Ever thought I play axis casually vs other people and sometimes Experts? Ever crossed your mind? In: COH2 Balance
Thread: WC 51 Changes24 Aug 2020, 09:16 AM Jump back to quoted post24 Aug 2020, 08:02 AMJulianSnow +40 mp remove crew reduce pen on the MG to the Kubel level However, seeing how the ML is going not alot of players are picking the mechanized company. Seems this unit is less OP than we might suggest. imo It's not OP at all. A slight price increase could be in order but if it were as OP as some claim, picking mechanized would be a no brainer as it would lead to ez wins. Until you get a series of complete stomps from one faction/commander, it's more-less well balanced.... or you could try searching for things to complain about all day. Couldn't care less. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: USF Commander idea24 Aug 2020, 00:38 AM Jump back to quoted post24 Aug 2020, 00:37 AMProtos Angelus I have to correct you on this account. This whole thread is nonsense and I agree with most of what you have said... However, giving rifles one zook and one bar is...bad. It can work in 1v1 maybe but in larger gamemodes which mostly play out in "lanes"... a big NO 3 VPs, 3v3 = 3 lanes. So you have a 3v3/4v4 map that is a bit larger than a 1v1 map but fits 6/8 more players. This forces you to go to your closest points/muni/fuel and VP, which pretty much means that you will have a large force of infantry which you will need to control and focus targets, on a smaller "map" (lane). In such game modes, you will want to know which is AI only squad and direct them to hit infantry only, and which are AT only squads. If you combine it, you'll have a really really bad time. Only time it can really work is in small game mode and early on when there are no obers or pzgrens and such and the AI power lost from one zook is not detrimental. Eg. I bind BAR rifles to 1, ranger zook + echelon zook to 2, tanks to 3 (Sherman,Pershing...) and 4 (Jackson, M10...), Pak/Scott to 5 and AA HT to 6 and ambulance to 7. You would induce much more micro and lose a lot of fights if you combine in larger game modes, especially late game. You want to target down squads one by one rather than attack ground and combining is not the way to do so. Trust me, two rifleman set up the same way are not the same since the speed of taking down enemy models results in you either winning an engagement or retreating. Delete this post plz. Replied instead of an edit. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: USF Commander idea24 Aug 2020, 00:37 AM Jump back to quoted post22 Aug 2020, 17:32 PMSp33dSnake Seen it and it works. Especially against light vehicles. You charge up, seeing an infantry with a BAR icon, thinking your Luchs/222 can push it off, but then the zook fires and you are And they are not bad against mainline infantry either. That one zook doesn't seem to hurt their firepower all that much. I have to correct you on this account. This whole thread is nonsense and I agree with most of what you have said... However, giving rifles one zook and one bar is...bad. It can work in 1v1 maybe but in larger gamemodes which mostly play out in "lanes"... a big NO 3 VPs, 3v3 = 3 lanes. So you have a 3v3/4v4 map that is a bit larger than a 1v1 map but fits 6/8 more players. This forces you to go to your closest points/muni/fuel and VP, which pretty much means that you will have a large force of infantry which you will need to control and focus targets, on a smaller "map" (lane) In such game modes, you will want to know which is AI only squad and direct them to hit infantry only, and which are AT only squads. If you combine it, you'll have a really really bad time. Only time it can really work is in small game mode and early on when there are no obers or pzgrens and such and the AI power lost from one zook is not detrimental. Eg. I bind BAR rifles to 1, ranger zook + echelon zook to 2, tanks to 3 (Sherman,Pershing...) and 4 (Jackson, M10...), Pak/Scott to 5 and AA HT to 6 and ambulance to 7. You would induce much more micro and lose a lot of fights if you combine in larger game modes, especially late game. You want to target down squads one by one rather than attack ground and combining is not the way to do so. Trust me, two rifleman set up the same way are not the same since the speed of taking down enemy models results in you either winning an engagement or retreating. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: USF Commander idea22 Aug 2020, 16:36 PM Just lock the thread. Nothing constructive can come out of a poor commander and trying to reason. USF needs commander versatility since it currently has none but not in such a way. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: How to deal with panzerschreck brummbar combo22 Aug 2020, 14:00 PM USF: Jackson + spread out infantry or infantry + double ATs. If you're just going vs brummbar and pzgrens with shrecks, that will do. You can also spam shermans and keep them at range vs shrecks but that requires a lot of micro so they don't collide and stop each other. As USF I always have AA HT for suppression, pak howits, 3 rifles, officer, ranger zook squad and then I go for Jackson and Pershing. If they spam tanks, get ATG. These are enough to counter everything they throw at you except rocket arty. UKF: 2x ATGs + AA tank or MGs. Unless it's some lategame blob of 100 population of brummbars and pzgrens, 1 brummbar is denied by 2 ATGs. Of course, I'm assuming you have one snare squad next to them to snare after brummbar takes one shot. It's not hard to counter that thing. Just have to micro it a bit. Remember to counter blobs of anything with suppression (infantry), or AT (tanks). Arty is a bonus to wipe suppressed infantry. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: give the okw a sniper22 Aug 2020, 00:12 AM Jump back to quoted post22 Aug 2020, 00:04 AMZzoner Kubels are very map dependent and have to often rotate perpendicular to map lane after pulling a flank which make it very vulnerable to the penal or IS supporting the sniper. JLI is complete rng at least without vet. Imo since okw is infantry oriented, they don’t need a direct sniper counter. What they need is awareness and prevention, involving some player input and decision making. -“Awareness”: Kubel vet 1 infantry awareness is the key. It gets vet 1 quite easily. However due to its vulnerability, you will likely lose it unless parked behind shotblockers or incredible babysit. I would swap vet 1 to vet 0 similarly to soviet mortar and add a small muni cost (5-10 muni to activate the scan). Maybe make it immobile to compensate. -“Prevention”: What would benefit okw is, imo, a stormtrooper camo type unit. Of course not assault, but scout/skirmisher and hit and run. That would shift brute force playstyle into setting up and micro manage. I can see JLI having at least a better camo, but losing the sight range. Kubel and flak are probably the only micro intensive units in OKW. Kubel more so because, early on it's great for harassment and bleed, later on you really do need to micro it to be outside of snare range (snares on kubel are certain death). While OKW is not micro intensive, it's decision intensive. That's what makes it difficult to play in smaller team modes. Although, the seldom times I actually watch top 2v2 games to see what top players play... even more seldom are times when OKW is rekt early on. Top OKW players seem to stand their ground vs early USF/brit plays. I don't know if that's because they are "SO much BETTER than their enemies" (highly doubt it), or because the balance is... you know.... in a good spot right now. Nothing stands out too much, some units are underwhelming and some really return a good reward, but nothing game breaking. OKW doesn't need sniper, neither does USF. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: give the okw a sniper21 Aug 2020, 23:27 PM Jump back to quoted post21 Aug 2020, 21:04 PMSerrith Correct me if I'm wrong but you are exclusively a USF player. How can you have experience using axis units to counter an allied sniper if you've never played an axis faction? And how can you even have experience getting YOUR sniper countered if you dont play factions that can even get them? Last I checked USF didn't have snipers... Only in competitive. I play lots of standard rules, standard maps custom games vs different opponents and if I want to loosen up and relax I play automatch vs experts. I've played enough games with each faction. USF I only play in comptetitive, relaxation is for OKW and brits mostly. And for competitive sniper plays, I've never had problems playing vs OST players that go snipers. I'd just evade and ignore the sniper and focus on capping points while my AA HT is coming along boosted by captain. And I see a lot of clown car plays or T70 from the soviet allies. Honestly, it was easiest to counter snipers back when I was around rank 20. Those top players really are careful with their sniper. When I dropped to 300, those guys got 2 snipers and were not afraid AT ALL to use them against everything. Of course, we'd win from the map control, but those starting minutes were really cancerous, bleeding a lot. Point is: - Automatch vs players: USF - Automatch vs Expert/Custom games (same rules and maps as ranked): OKW mostly, then brits, then OST, then soviets (soviets are not my cup of tea). In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Riflemen and M1919.21 Aug 2020, 20:28 PM How are Rifles under performing? They are in a really really good spot right now. The only fighting infantry for USF (not counting the officers) non-doc and they do the job splendidly. They negate the need for elite infantry due to the versatility with racks. Only downside is that if you lose them, you lose access to snare. Short range they only lose to Sturmpios early on and long range to volks and sometimes grens but medium range they excel, placing them in a good spot (most engagements are medium range). In: COH2 Balance