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Thread: Instant garrisoning/ungarrisoning NEEDS to go.12 Mar 2017, 23:34 PM Jump back to quoted post12 Mar 2017, 23:07 PMinsaneHoshi Bait/10 either OP is a troll or doesn't know how to interpret what he is seeing. If one watches the top right unit icons, one can see that the SU player gives the command to exit the building at 32:32. It wasnt instant at all. Oh, for crying out loud, stop with the tunnel vision. This is one example. The setup/teardown has nothing to do with the problem I'm outlining. Setup/teardown is an ADDITIONAL delay for setup teams. The game lacks basic garrisoning/ungarrisoning delay, like what Dawn of War II has: squads entering and exiting garrisons one model at a time. In CoH2, squads TELEPORT, all at once, out of a building or into it. That is ridiculous and nullifies all anti-garrison solutions completely for non-setup teams, while making setup teams require that much less tactical foresight. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Instant garrisoning/ungarrisoning NEEDS to go.12 Mar 2017, 22:49 PM But there is no instant garrison unit killing. The only time a squad will die instantly in a garrison is if the garrison collapses. That's a perfectly reasonable mechanic. Grenades, flamethrowers, and artillery don't instawipe squads in garrisons as long as the garrison maintains structural integrity. However, a squad being able to teleport out of a garrison, avoiding absolutely all damage from a grenade/flame/shell, then teleport back into the garrison... that's simply wrong, and particularly egregious within the context of DoWII doing this just right, where squads enter and exit garrisons one model at a time. And if it were done like that (the way it should be), then 4-man squads would actually have a counterbalance to their extreme vulnerability in the open compared to five and six model squads. But of course, this is all too much logic for Relic. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Instant garrisoning/ungarrisoning NEEDS to go.12 Mar 2017, 22:00 PM How is this a bad example? The building collapsed. That's what would've killed the squad, not the artillery shell itself. That same building could've collapsed from any number of other damage sources, and the ludicrous escape would've still been just as ludicrous. And really, that was just the situation that reminded me of this whole issue. It's hardly the most blatant and prevalent scenario. Grenades in particular are COMPLETELY useless against garrisoned squads, ESPECIALLY non-setup teams, which literally teleport instantly, at the speed of light, rendering grenades -- the primary anti-garrison ability in Relic's tactical RTS games -- useless. And what makes all this worse is that Relic ALREADY HAS A GAME where they've done this properly: Dawn of War II. Same game where AT guns actually cripple tanks as they should, so that tanks can't hard counter AT guns. Yet here we have CoH2, years after DoWII, and it's like Relic doesn't even remember making DoWII, judging by these utterly uninformed mechanics design decisions. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Instant garrisoning/ungarrisoning NEEDS to go.12 Mar 2017, 19:14 PM At 32:20... utterly absurd for a strategic/tactical game. The German player pulls off a brilliant feint, but the machine gun crew teleports out of the building and escapes what should have been certain death. The simple fact that an entire squad can teleport out of a building to avoid artillery/grenades/flamethrowers/etc., then regarrison by teleporting just as instantly is a clear sign of utterly terrible game design. It rewards twitching instead of actual tactics and foresight/planning, and effectively renders anti-garrison attacks useless. Why waste munitions or a high cooldown artillery barrage, when there's a 100% chance that the opposing garrisoned squad will escape unscathed because all three, four, five, or even SIX of its members will just magically appear outside the building in less than a second? In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Winter Patch12 Mar 2017, 01:46 AM There's basically no way the model spacing fix is going to be entirely positive. Since even if it does make Ostheer infantry as unlikely to take damage from AoE as USF infantry, that'll just mean that AoE will become worthless on all factions and cause some kind of ridiculous direct fire meta for an indeterminate amount of time. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Ostheer infantry scaling11 Mar 2017, 05:04 AM It's still ridiculous just how little damage the MG42 deals. The wider arc of fire isn't really that much of an advantage at all given the way most of the maps are designed. Though all in all, number crunching needs to wait until the total failure on Relic's part in designing the model spacing is finally fixed after TWO AND A HALF YEARS this month. My estimation is that once the spacing is standardized, it'll become even more evident just how disadvantageous 4-man squads are, at which point we'll probably need to wait another year for something to change in that regard. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Ostheer infantry scaling10 Mar 2017, 17:20 PM Jump back to quoted post10 Mar 2017, 15:52 PM__deleted__ This. OKW lacks garison counters not mg counters Well, that's what the WBP changes to the Flak Halftrack and Luchs are meant to address... just not for the first many minutes of any given match, where OKW will continue to be locked in base. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Ostheer infantry scaling10 Mar 2017, 01:28 AM Was watching a Propagandacast and was reminded of this thread... Wounded 4-man USF squad wanders over, picks up an enemy MG, and walks away before the next wave of enemy squads arrives on the spot. Hmm, I guess I should do that too, since it gives such a great tactical advantage and will surely help w--oh, wait, I CAN'T, because as soon as my squads lose ONE MODEL (instantly), they can't grab setup weapons anymore. And I remember someone saying something like, "4-man squads are a disadvantage, deal with it." Amazing reasoning. Just perfect. People should just deal with being at an inherent disadvantage for no apparent reason. And no, the blatantly manufactured "defensive/offensive faction" classification that Relic put out in their pathetic attempt to do less redesign work is not a valid reason. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Winter Patch8 Mar 2017, 21:50 PM The year is 40,750. The Imperium of Man has barely managed to hold its ground amid a wartorn galaxy. The Tyranid threat inches ever closer to consuming all things, and the menace of the orks is as prevalent as ever. Even the Eldar have retreated to their most heavily fortified abodes, taking on a defensive posture as a last resort. Meanwhile, on Terra, as the God-Emperor's throne is fortified in every imaginable way by the Adeptus Mechanicus, the ongoing development of Company of Heroes 2 continues, with a fix for the most grievous of issues and imbalances finally looming on the horizon. May the God-Emperor guide the hands of the Relicus Incompetentus. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Ostheer infantry scaling8 Mar 2017, 07:55 AM Then you add all the other objectively incorrect game design, such as Ostheer having an "armored" car that isn't actually armored, and the entire Ostheer faction has not been viable since the release of Western Front TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO. CoH2 is a farce, and Relic have been buffing Ostheer and OKW for YEARS now, one critical issue fixed at a time, and it's STILL not enough because of just how utterly incorrect their design of the Western Fronts factions was and how completely it broke the game. People always obsess over balance. "Balanced this", "unbalanced that." But CoH2 suffers from fundamental game design failure, not just balance issues, which are present in every online multiplayer game. And it's clear that SEGA isn't interested in funneling any more resources into the game's development, nor firing and replacing the failures responsible for this kind of complete cancer. In: COH2 Balance