The faction doesn't need a complete overhaul, just some tweaks to make it competitive in 1v1.
It needs Smoke that's not tied to the mortar pit (which isn't very useful in 1v1). Giving Smoke of some description to Pyro Sections makes the most sense.
The faction also needs a stock assault option, given that it has none designed for this purpose.
Fix those issues and let doctrine take care of the rest.
+1
They also need mobile indirect or something to at least counter indirect spam, because double leig or mortar against brits is basically gg. They can't assault the position super well because most of the faction is not at all mobile and can't hunker down and play trench warfare attrition because they have no answer to indirect. Even smoke and a stock assault option wouldn't fix this entirely. |
An interesting idea would be to halve its speed, 2sec delay on smoke and give it 0.25x its current setup speed, in exchange for slightly better anti inf damage and some actually good penetration.
That way with good positioning and supporting it you can be rewarded with a unit worth its cost.
IMO its offensive capabilities are fine, it's its defensive capabilities that are bad and hold it back. Those changes would really work out to be a mega-nerf IMO.
Allow Sturms to upgrade a second Schreck for another 60 muni if med truck is deployed, opening up more AT options if you opt for a T1 build.
That's an interesting idea. Would make me actually think about getting schrecks instead of auto minesweeper. Although honestly on a unit that expensive I'd be totally fine with also making schrecks and sweepers not mutually exclusive, especially since it's already that way for usf and brits. |
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I kinda like 2 and 3, but if 3 gets implemented then it should probably lose the smoke. |
osther half truck reinforces has mg and upgrade this would just reinforce no moving infantry, healing or upgrade, + it would have a recon like ability with cd , 15 fu seems ok to me
MG with like 1 DPS lol.
I'd be fine with it having a tradeoff, upgrade it for recon ability but lose reinforce ability. Recon shouldn't be cheaper than 30 muni. No other faction has any equivalent for cheaper than 30 muni, in fact I think most cost at least 45. |
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It needs a rework too. 200mp and 5 fuel for passive maphax is a bit much. It was a bit much when the 300-something mp 70 fuel doctrinal valentine could do it, so why does the halftrack still have it. |
120 hits like a truck and from a mile away. You are paying for mortar dominance not DPS.
+1
Too high popcap and xp value requirements.
Rest is fine, since all indirect fire has been nerf down.
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I think most of the mediums are fine, they're good for holding flanks in 1v1 and generally just keeping pressure on the field while their AT runs around trying to counter them.
I think the cromwell is kind of unnecessarily bad though. It could use the t34 treatment with its mgs considering it doesn't really stand out at anything and is more expensive than t34s. |
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Firefly is bad because brits can't have nice things reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.
To be fair they had some pretty cancerous BS for a while so I can see why people are leery of the faction still but brits really are the worst now lol. |
bolster thing is good, IMO this should also be added to the rest of factions, also similar to 7 cons squad upgrade, brits after all require like a faction redesign, they lack like everything, no indirect fire (mortar pit sucks), no CCQ unit, no real legit light vehicle to counter infantry, tanks in overall are somewhat weak
+1
Sections are fine, now that they're gone as a crutch unit almost everything else in the faction sucks and that's what needs to be looked at. |
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I like the hammer gammon bombs suggestion, especially because they currently don't inflict engine crits (which I think they shouldn't) and just stun instead. It would be a nice bonus for picking hammer that's definitely on par with the airburst shells in anvil.
However, I think sections' stats are in a decent spot for what they're designed to do right now. Instead of buffing sections, what the faction needs to be not garbage again is a rounding out of its nondoc roster. Right now it completely lacks certain things, mostly mobile infantry and mobile indirect fire. If they had a nondoctrinal mobile indirect fire platform and a sort of mid-tier cqc infantry like pgrens they'd be so much more useable. The lend lease commander is IMO one of the best brit commanders right now and literally everything in the commander except for WP nades and vehicle crew repairs is nondoctrinal for other factions. |
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