Fuck me, is it really that hard to understand why I said (in summary) not all FOW snooping is cheating, it can be useful?
I understand what you said, I do not understand why you say what is written in the training while loading the game
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Simple, he stated that constant camera work in the FOW was what lead him to be suspicious, I responded by stating that you cant always blame camera work in FOW as and I quote:
"But FOW doesnt hide sound or trees crushing etc, amount of times I have hit a repairing vehicle through FOW because I can hear it is uncountable. I know what you are refering to though, just making it clear so that people that don'nt know about this might see everyone as a cheater for FOW 'snooping'."
Simple really, and as you can see, I didnt mention infantry  Oh and erm " I know what you are refering to though"
I didn't understand why you mentioned the noise in FOG, since it is written about in the prompts during loading. |
Where did I mention infantry
where did he mention cars/tanks? |
But FOW doesnt hide sound or trees crushing etc, amount of times I have hit a repairing vehicle through FOW because I can hear it is uncountable. I know what you are refering to though, just making it clear so that people that don'nt know about this might see everyone as a cheater for FOW 'snooping'.
And the infantry? You can probably smell it in FOG? |
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I didn't mean they to imply all the clippers, but mostly Brosras and his 2v2 partner.
I was shooting from the 55th second when blob appeared, from his point of view. Maybe I should have started shooting with a freeze frame. In a good way, at each moment, you need to make 2 videos, but it will take much more time |
With the context of Kimbo's VOD, the gren/volk blob had been spotted a good 10-15 seconds prior to the Katy firing AND they were spotted moving in a particular direction from when the blob pushed back the Paras/Scott/Jackson. I don't think there is anything shocking about pre-firing on a blob when you know their location/direction of movement.
That being said, assuming that was the case, he shouldn't have claimed to have seen the Gren model. However, he's also under a lot of stress and being cornered into trying to remember his thought process throughout numerous games across a span of days so making up a justification isn't surprising. But simply saying "I can't remember" would have been better.
Ultimately, the short snippet that your clip shows makes things look worse than they were. Within the context there seems to be no foul play.
I didn't watch his stream because I don't understand English.
Given his style of play, through AWSD and the minimap, he doesn't look directly at the blob, and on the minimap it didn't look very much like a blob, then I have my doubts, but if it's not, then it's really a huge skill.
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Great context.
I suggest you tell Seeking that if he doesn't know nor remembers a situation that you tell him to simple tell the truth. Cause trying to find excuses just makes him more guilty than staying silent.
Because those situations which could be explained by game sense or predictions are been put in the spotlight (at least in my case) exclusively by the defense that Seeking is trying to put up.
I can believe pre fire. I don't believe (and he is still lying) that he spotted the blob and fired because he saw the Grenadier model.
The activation of Katyusha's ability begins before the grenadier model appears(at least when I looked in slow motion, it looked like this), so there is only foresight here. |
Seeking has managed to find in one of my vods clip for the katyusha.
Clip from brosras: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlFDmsKh5EY
clip from stream: https://clips.twitch.tv/VenomousPolishedFinchKeepo-Tzcfo-q8v8x3Uds3
This blob is lazily walking since i spot it on the road, by this stage they giving up and not microing that much. Seeking fire his katyusha in predicted spot, probably before he even see models. The part where i see blob a-moving is cut out to make it look more suspicious than it is.
I'll give you a hint, it's not for nothing that the clip is called part 2 |
Further investigation on the katy has shown the following
Katy story:
23:55, Kimbo spots blob, its al over the mini map
24:01- 24:04 Kimbo retreats scott and paratrooper after shooting the blob also back offs jacksons
24:10 first rocket from seeking katy shows up
I don’t know how slow u think seeking is, but I bet even my grandma could have lined up a katy by now. There is a 15 sec time frame between first sight of the blob, all over the tacmap and plain view. Would be nice if everyone who was so busy looking in the replays and flaming in this thread, also took the time to look at kimbo’s vod lol.
https://clips.twitch.tv/IcyShortBillRuleFive-PDZZCWFDf-1O51ak Kimbo vod clip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sp40YvZTY0&list=PL_YBMTftAjosbora-jA6DR54ix8ZY_NNq&index=32
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlFDmsKh5EY&list=PL_YBMTftAjosbora-jA6DR54ix8ZY_NNq&index=33
considering that he didn't look there(while they were not in the fog of war) to make such a forecast on the minimap, it was strong, if this really isn't hacking, then I take my hat off to these gentlemen |
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