Allies players retreat their squads once they see Kingtiger or Stuka as well, because they are not ubermench as well.
You are always assuming that the other faction is an OKW, because you name the KT, Stuka, vet 5 volks, etc. But what about OST.
We all know OST. Ost is very, I dont know, ost.!!! lol |
Do not blob then. I have never seen a mattress or katty or nerfed Calliope to wipe a single squad with second strike. If you are stubborn and refuse to retreat your squads after the first rockets land, then there is no hope for you. The same would happen to you if you ignore flares of offmap artillery, so i dont see a problem there.
Blobing or not blobing, weapon teams take some time to unpack and retreat. And considering that OST is a very defensive factions and have 4men squads in all their inf, well, arty seems to be very efective. |
If it is positioned the it is instacountered by stuka because it needs ages to unpack. You just need to know when to fire the barrage (when the mattress is fining)
With OKW maybe with a lot of luck you can kill a Katy with a Stuka or with some offmap arty.
But with OST, forget it!!!. There is no way to kill those arty. |
Katty is balanced, it is the weakest mobile arty along with panzerwerfer.Small arms kill it in mere of seconds, cannot survive a tank shot, has biggest spread and biggest delay between barrage parts.
Why you think it should be nerfed even further ?
Land Mattress dies to a Walking stuka because it is a team weapon and cannot reposition fast enough. Also any tank push will evaporise it because it is a team weapon.
It is also getting nerfed - delay between single rockets is being increased, so I dont see a problem here.
You think it should be nerfed even further ? If yes, why then ?
CalliOP will be Calliope after the patch because it is receiving a nerf - bigger delay between single rockets.
Also it is getting a healthbar reduction so a single tank dive will hopefully kill it now (needs 2 shots to die, which is fine for the most expensive mobile artilly with the raw power of land mattress).
You think it should be nerfed even further ? If yes why then ?
Also do remember that these units need to remain semi-decent in 1v1 or 2v2 so they can counter static positions and simcities reliably 
The reason why allies spam arty in 4v4 is not because it is utterly OP but because it is only viable alternative to Vet5 OKW Volks blobs since their infantry cant compete with them (even less when a one shot wipe wonder machine AKA kingtiger is behind vet5 volks blob)
You are justifying the one-click wiping machines just by saying that they have low health?
Of course they should have low health.
In almost every game, katyushas (and the other allied Artys) never get killed and they end the game easily with vet 3. Who risk a Panther or two P4s just to get behind enemy lines to kill some arty. (Less even when we know the accuracy of the axis tanks)?
The problem I think is the big AOE of each rocket. |
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Yeah cons seems a bit strong now. I mean, they do not have too much DPS, but they can run and survey the map really easy. With no trouble.
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I have one question for the dev team.
If you are balancing the game, specially in 4v4, by nerfing Axis late tanks, are you gonna do something about the late game Allies arty spam (specially Katys, LM, Callies)?
I mean, if we talk about "balance", that would be completely fair.
Lets be honest, late games in 4v4 or 3v3 are an arty spam fest from allies 90% of the games. |
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Mr. Smith, we appreciate the effort with DBP, but you are making too much changes that are not really needed.
e.g.
- Smoke on RE.
- Elephant nerfs.
- Jackson Buffs.
- OST Panther nerfs, instead of some "love".
- changes in vets in almost every unit.
- T34/76 cost increase. Why?? |
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I guess mod team is given too much nerfes to OKW.
- You removed the SturmTiger capabilitis to shoot through obstacles. Why dont remove that same capabilities to the Churchill AVRE?
- You nerfed too much the Stuka Zu Fuss. What about the Katiushas, Calliopes and LM? those things are ruining 4v4 games, not panthers, jacksons, or elephants.
Does anyone remember that OKW are a starving faction and they are supposed to have really good units??? |
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IMO this is the worst patch ever. Lelic please continue developing AoE4 and dont mess it with that game. |
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IMO at least 80% of the changes are dumb and not very necesary, or maybe not urgent. |
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