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Thread: Upcoming CoH3 installment (Poll)10 Mar 2019, 17:14 PM Ok, so the 47mm AT gun also used on the Chi-Ha, when first introduced in 1941 it had difficulties getting through the Shermans armour. However later on during the mid of the conflict in late 1943 or so, it recieved upgraded shells which replaced the early ones in the most part, these were then used on most battles afterwards. The 47mm gun was then able to pen 110mm at close to mid range being 250m or so, this according to US tests made after the Battle of Leyte (1945), source: Enemy on Luzon, an intelligence summary. Headquarters, Sixth Arny, Dec. 1945, page 94. http://cgsc.cdmhost.com/cdm/pageflip/collection/p4013coll8/id/3187/type/compoundobject/show/3186/cpdtype/monograph/pftype/pdf Thus the 47mm gun was able to easily pen the Shermans sloped armour at such range (250m) and technically, reliably beat any other medium or heavy tank with less than 110mm of protection at least. A few more tests were done regarding the performance of the 47mm gun, such as a US report based on the Battle of Okinawa were it was reported that the improved shell was able to pen an M4a3 Sherman at 450m, source: Okinawa, The Most Effective japan Tank, Intelligence Bulletin Vol. 3 No. 10 June 1945 and Vol. 3 No. 11 July 1945, page 24, Vol. 3 No. 11 http://www.lonesentry.com/articles/jp_type97_tank/index.html A separate report also based on Okinawa stated that the 47mm gun was able to pen any of the M4a6 Shermans armour at any range up to 730m, source: Japan's Battle of Okinawa, April - June 1945, Leavenworth Papers, U.S. Army Command and General Staff College, Fort Leavenworth, pages 68, 69 and 70. https://apps.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a322748.pdf Lastly, a report based on the Battle of Iwo Jima were US personel request the delivery of the M26 Pershing due to the now extreme vulnerability of the M4a3 Sherman by the 47mm gun, source: Annex "Jig" to Fourth Marine Division Operations Report, Iwo Jima - 4th Tank Battallion Report, page 20 https://archive.org/details/JigReport4thMarineDivisionIwoJima-nsia/page/n19 This is for those asking for sources. So therefore, the 47mm gun was then able to reliably pen the Shermans armour at a range of 750m and so it could against any other medium tank similarly armoured at this range, while at closer ranges were the gun reached the 110mm of pen, it had a much better chance against more protected vehicles, being most of what the allies field, including some heavy tanks. The only allied vehicles I can think of were the 47mm gun would have trouble fighting against, are the Sherman Jumbo, the Pershing and especially the late war Churchills, which I believe the latter did saw some limited combat in the Pacific. While Soviet heavy tanks such as the IS2, used during the 1945 Manchuria invasion, would also be protected on the most part by the 47mm gun, only getting pen on a couple of areas from the front. Either way, if heavy tanks such as the Jumbo, the Pershing or the IS2 were to be used, Japan would still have other weapons to deal against these more effectively though. In: Lobby
Thread: Upcoming CoH3 installment (Poll)10 Mar 2019, 03:29 AM Jump back to quoted post10 Mar 2019, 00:14 AMblancat USF stuart can beat every imperial japan army's armour what is japan army's logistic? suicide banzai attack? I have never seen an impressive picture of their past record They have a World War I level equipment and always lost to USF in the land battle And the 47mm Chi-Ha could also beat most of the USFs armour, your point is? Although the Stuart couldnt reliably pen every IJA armour. Most of their equipment being WW1 level is also very arguable. To be fair, every axis nation lost against USF in most land battles, only at the beginning of the conflict they all had their main victories. In: Lobby
Thread: Upcoming CoH3 installment (Poll)9 Mar 2019, 21:33 PM Jump back to quoted post9 Mar 2019, 20:40 PMKatitof Japanese: -infantry -cars -trucks -small caliber ordnance USF: -pretty much the same as we have now in game + more flamethrowers and Stuarts and other light armor suitable for landings. Ground forces of Japan(especially Japan) and USF were not that diverse, the air force and navy were. Not really, you are oversimplifying and leaving out a lot, you basically described every army with that list. So a better list might be a bit more like this Japan: -Large variety of infantry (rifles, smgs, hmgs, combat engineers, bridge/pontoon engineers, demolition squads, paratroopers, specialized commandos, snipers, AT infantry, etc.) -Trucks and armoured cars why not -Light and medium tanks (including flame tanks, infantry support gunned tanks, AT gunned tanks) -Medium and large calliber SPGs -A few support heavy tanks actually used in combat -Large calliber rocket artillery -Naval landing vehicles and equipment -Defensive AA and artillery emplacements, bunkers, etc. -Non combat logistical and other support vehicles to spice things up (troop and gun transports, ammo and resource carriers, multiporpouse engineering vehicles, radar vehicles, command vehicles, etc.) -Different types of air support (supplies, light and medium bombings, fragmentation bombs, ground attackers with large calliber guns, etc.) -basically all type of ordenance US: -Infantry (pretty much the same) -scout vehicles such as the Greyhound -light vehicles such as AA halftracks and gun carriers (.50cal halftracks, 40mm boffors halftraks, mortar carriers, etc.) -light and medium tanks (Stuarts, 75mm and 105mm Shermans, flame tanks) -Amphibous landing vehicles and amphibous upgrades for these tanks -M18 Hellcat -Rocket artillery trucks -Large gunned SPGs -Large calliber arty emplacements -Non combat logistical and other support vehicles (pretty much the same) -Air support (supplies, standard and napalm bombings, planes with HV rockets, etc) -All types of ordenance This obviously without going into much detail and leaving out more. Here both the US and Japan could have support from their respective IJN and USMC branches, or these could even be factions of their own too (at least with the SNLF a lot more could still be added). In: Lobby
Thread: Upcoming CoH3 installment (Poll)9 Mar 2019, 20:28 PM Jump back to quoted post21 Feb 2019, 06:18 AMblancat early war europe and pacific war will be a boring game Do you want to see the final tech is medium tank? no fun and it is difficult to make a difference compared to coh2 fictional 50~60's extended WW2 will be better it will also can make fictional korean war and vietnam war dlc Imagine the fictional war machine of the Axis in the 50s and 60s fighting the advanced war machines of the Allies What a new fresh game! Both the US army and the Japanese army at the Pacific were very diverse, so much that you could make two or more different factions out of each without repeating many units. I dont think there is a need for a call in heavy tank in order for a faction to be interesting, in fact, in CoH2 I barely use heavy armour commanders. In: Lobby
Thread: Upcoming CoH3 installment (Poll)18 Feb 2019, 20:22 PM Just curious what most of the community might want or expect for the scenario and era of the next Company of Heroes game. This might also give us a clearer look on the results of the polls Relic sent some time ago. Feel free to share your thoughts, if I missed something pls let me know. In: Lobby
Thread: Imperial Japanese Army proposed faction29 Dec 2018, 22:21 PM Jump back to quoted post28 Dec 2018, 20:00 PMRoastinGhost This got me thinking- Japan's weakness, and I think the main reason people are opposed to them being added, is their lack of tanks. Tanks provide a few things for the cost of fuel- immunity to suppression and small arms fire, munitions-free explosive damage, and maybe most importantly, can take damage without bleeding manpower. I think Japan could be given those benefits in a different way. A "Fanaticism" bonus could be bought for mainline infantry, maybe 4 fuel per model. This would make them immune to suppression, harder to hit, and free to reinforce. You have to spend the fuel again for replacements, though. The squad's received suppression would be the same fraction as men with the upgrade. This would only be available around the same time other factions are getting their heavy tanks. Thats seems like a good idea, give a couple more fighting abilities to some infantry such as charging or a slightly better performance while in cover or when holding a possition, these would have a temporary effect and cost ammo or else it could be too OP. Maybe also expand the AT capabilities of other infantry units, such as being able to disable vehicle engines by throwing a satchel charge or something. I imagine Japanese infantry could be organized and would fight in an assymetrical way against both enemy infantry and vehicles with their different abilities and light AT weapons, similar to how the Soviet AT-Infantry tactics commander works in CoH2. Japanese tanks arent very protected, thats why they would have a more supportive role with their infantry or with other vehicles, rather than just charging forward alone like a panther would do. Jump back to quoted post29 Dec 2018, 06:30 AMShadowLinkX37 When you think its a necro, but the OP necroed it 2 years later to change things and mention it for CoH3. Well done. Well I mean, just wanted to fix many errors for anyone that might be interested in the idea, better than starting a similar topic on the same subject, Im saving internet trees. In: Lobby
Thread: Imperial Japanese Army proposed faction27 Dec 2018, 20:01 PM Updated the tech tree and corrected many errors. Still hoping for a Far East campaign maybe in CoH3, an Africa/ Italy campaign or an early war scenario with the French included would at least give a fresh air to the franchise. Sorry if this seems like a necro. In: Lobby
Thread: Italian Faction 14 Jul 2016, 16:40 PM Jump back to quoted post14 Jul 2016, 07:50 AMKatitof 1) You should really read OP first. 2) Italian army didn't considered Sherman to be super heavy tank, Japs had nothing on that. Thats complitely false, they certainly did have plenty of stuff that could counter a Sherman, even a Pershing. I kinda like the idea of Italy too and it would also work, but they werent at all any better prepared than Japan was. In: Lobby
Thread: Imperial Japanese Army proposed faction26 May 2016, 00:19 AM Jump back to quoted post25 May 2016, 06:42 AMnee Land battles that included naval support, a feature that's not very realistic in CoH2 battles. Air strikes however are a different issue, you just make the descriptions vague so it's not clear if it's IJA or IJN based aircraft doing the attacks. I would put it in the perspective of the following: Japanese anti tank weapons would be as realistic as ZiS and bazookas penetrating King Tigers fron the front: both are unrealistic to the point of ridiculous. Of course the problem with that argument is that it just reinforces the sheer unrealism of the game and how a Japanese faction has to be equally ludicrous in order to be feasible in said unrealistic game. I still don't buy that, because it's a mentality that accepts increasing implausibilities just to accommodate an almost implausible scenario. I rather they just make a CoH3 featuring IJA, hell it'll make more money for them, AND be less of a headache to balance and tweak. ALso to add, you're not just trying to design units to perform against other units they've never fought agains, but also design a faction that would, presumably, have a distinct style of gameplay. Of course that's not withstanding the idea of IJA Rifleblobs blazing though Churchills by equipping 81mm RRs. Come now, we all know that's the first thing we'll do once we unlock that upgrade at T4! Yeah I dont think a lack of naval support would be a big deal, they have standard artillery support or air support which they often had a lot. I agree that it would take a lot of balancing to make another faction, considering how much relic has suffered with OKW. However as I just mentioned, some of the Japanese units being able to pennetrate heavier tanks wouldnt be unrealistic at all, thats my point. Unlike the zis gun or bazookas pennetrating a Tiger or KT, some of the units I showed had a much higher pennetration value similar to those of the Jackson and the Su-85, so at least it wouldnt be anymore unrealistic than the Jackson penning a KT honestly. Also in an arcade rts game like this why would it matter if units that never fought each other have an engangement? That already happens in game annyways (churchill vs Jackson, Comet vs T-34, KT vs KT etc.). Idk but personally if I were to reach the Tier 4 building Id certainly go for the Ho-Ni II, it could deal against late armour and be an artillery at the same time, would be kinda cool if u ask me. Id also get a couple of Chi-Has with the 57mm gun to deal against infantry blobs or just make a few Shinhotos to outnumber and flank, at least thats kinda my playstyle with the USF. About the 81mm recoilless rifles probably everyone would get them as an easy way lol, however I included them to give more diversity against armoured units although they perform kinda worse than the panzerschreck on pennetration at least. But since not many of these were made then it might be alright to just allow infantry units to pick up one at a time only, or just make it a doctrinal weapon. In: Lobby
Thread: Imperial Japanese Army proposed faction25 May 2016, 06:27 AM Jump back to quoted post25 May 2016, 05:40 AMCrystal In a Pacific Theater with a whole new gameplay( in Coh3 maybe ), why not. In CoH2, no. The faction just don't fit at all with the game, which is ground battle on flat battlefields, without any kind of ambush tactics / naval support etc. In pure frontline ( which is basically the gameplay of CoH2 ), IJA just don't have the weapons to face late UKF, Soviet or USF units with a minimum of historical accuracy. And this is the same problem for those who want a Finland Faction in the game. At least we could think about an Italian Faction, even though it's still difficult. ( but not impossible. Maybe on a North Afrika theme with dedicated maps ? That would be cool but i don't really believe in this. ) A lack of naval support wouldnt rlly be a big deal with the IJA having engaged mostly on land battles, and there were tons of land battles on the Pacific, maybe more than naval battles actually. Im also sure that the ambush tactics could be implemented into Coh2, personally I dont think it would be that complex considering that we already have units that can camo and even spawn from random points such as the rackettenwerfer, the goliath vehicle, partisans and so on, so at least it seems that the game already has some basics in camo and ambushes. About Japanese units not being able to compete against the British or Germans in an open field battle in Coh2 I dont agree at all, this is kinda the point and what Im trying to show in this thread actually. Take a look at the Ho-Ni II TD I included for example or the Type 4 Ho-Ro, these could technically take out a Tiger I or even a KT, so these two could easily be a late game IJA vehicle, and I left out a few other possible late game vehicles. Also considering that there are already some in game units such as the Soviet Zis gun, bazookas, among other that can take out a KT or a Jagdtiger from the front, adding some other units which actually had better pennetration value such as the Ho-Ni II (120mm pen) or the Type 41 field gun (around 100mm pen), I dont think it would look anymore unrealistic on that aspect, also its not like Coh2 is an example of realism either. Aneways so these two IJA TDs for example could easily be around the same tier of the Jackson or the Su-85 regarding pennetration values. However with all this I dont think either that relic will make anything like the Pacific theatre for Coh2, not even sure if they will even make another faction or much more stuff for this game, especially with DoW 3 now beaing announced, but I partly just wanted to clear out some kinda big misbeleaves regarding the IJAs performance, equipment, impact or role overall. In: Lobby