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A good argument and a logical idea from Vipper. Don't know if I agree with the particular solution. But it's certainly in a slightly useless spot for 1v1.

The only really useful way to use it is to get two AT guns, then carefully vet it up ASAP to use the special ability. The regular fire is just not that good any more compared to a Cromwell (Centaur was nerfed and Crom buffed) especially against full health squads since it rarely takes down a unit in the first volley.

That really limits it's use to AA and blob control in team games. Maybe that's fine, though, maybe not all units need to be useful in all modes...

Fair enough. I don't know about the incidents you're referring to in your post, but I didn't disagree with any of the points you were raising. I certainly did not disagree with you standing up for the volunteer balance guys. As I said I agree that we should be thankful to them, and that they're generally doing a good job, and that most of the people complaining the loudest don't really understand balance on any high level.

To be honest I just disagreed with the manner in which you presented your points, with a bunch of sweary personal attacks, whereas in my view the OP actually presented his argument in a reasonably polite and respectful manner. Perhaps he was overly critical, but at the very least he provided some useful feedback points (regarding QA and "big picture" balance) which seem perfectly valid to me and hopefully will be helpful to the balance team.

Anyway it doesn't really matter, let's take it to PM if we have anything further to discuss, to avoid cluttering up the thread.

Many have already suggested: make the crew RA from 1 to 1.25. This will make them have the same effective HP to small arms damage as the 4 man crews of other at gun crews but still be just as resistant to explosive damage which was what the rak crew struggled with when they only had 4 men.

+1

Agree with this or at least 1.15 or something. I don't want to remove retreat because it's cool and unique, and it was just too squishy before at 4 man. But 5 man + retreat is too much, it's too easy to A-move overextend to get shots off and then run away (especially with double rak this can punish Mediums super hard).

Nice. tell me do you feel cool copy pasting some numbers that aint nothing to do whith what im talking about?
have you ever build an ostwind and seen it firing?

This thread is not about the T-70 vs. the Ostwind... honestly I tried to choose my words carefully because I knew someone would come out either saying "lulz shut up T70 is way better than Ostwind" or "lulz shut up Ostwind is way better than T70".

I'm only trying to make an example with T-70, a unit that is very strong and good value, but is nonetheless not seen as a "crutch" or "gimmick", because it is seen as an integral part of a balanced faction.

BTW, with regards to "big picture" vision and balance. Firstly I'm surprised to hear Sander93 say that "true asymmetric" balance is impossible... I actually don't know if I agree with that. For one example, take the Brits before Sapper snare.

Brits were actually fine without a snare IMHO, because they had lots of other stuff: extra-accurate AT guns (with a fast-move special ability), very powerful (if manually-aimed) PIATs, the Sniper snare, the AEC snare, FF Tulips, and the doctrinal AT-Tommies (in emergency). A totally unique approach; it was totally different to regular snare-play, interesting, and hard to master.

OK, the Sniper snare, Tulips and the AT-Tommies definitely needed adjusments (sniper and Tulip too stong, AT-Tommies too weak). But I think that with some tuning the original vision could have worked.

Instead... PIATs were cloned into Zooks, 6-Pdr cloned into Pak, Sappers given a faust clone, and AEC / Tulips / Sniper Snare all nerfed extremely hard. Worst, these changes happened one-by-one over the course of years, so for large stretches the whole faction's AT made no sense...


Of course, I'm not on the balance team and people like Sander93 probably have a much deeper understanding than me of what it takes to balance the game (and work much harder than us forum warriors!). In this one particular example though, I think the game lost a lot of flavour and challenge for the sake of balance.