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All you guys talk as if sappers with bren were able to replace tommys with brens as mainline inf.

Now I dont have the time to go into the attribute editor and check the stats myself but I have been very vividly checking any threads on the matter (for that I can do from work ☺).

And last I checked unless you are talking close range, IS with double bren still does quite a bit more dps than sappers with double bren. Due to the simple fact that in the IS you have 3 more members contributing to dps whilst the sappers far and mid range sten gun dps closes in on zero making the entire dmg come from the 2 brens. Also, once vet works again IS will get 20 % more acc on all 5 members whilst sappers dont. What am I missing? And if anyone cares to do the actual dps values with and possibly without vet, maybe they could add sappers with anvil upgrade.

Thanks in advance

They adjusted the matchmaking:
-Matchmaking improvements have been made to help ensure match-ups between players of similar skill are made on a more regular and consistent basis. As a result of these changes, automatch wait times may slightly increase.

Also a few more additional bug changes too.

WHAAAAAAT??!?!?!?! Thats beyond great. If this is realy true it will be a huge step forward to this game and ensure a growing community.

I have said it before and I'll say it again. There needs to be a button that you can click and it will keep searching until you have opponents(and mates obviously) +- your level and 100. Or percantage based arround 20 %.
If the game searches for an hour then because it simply takes that long to find that setup then it is your decision and you can uncheck it at any given moment. But I do not enjoy stomping noobs I i know stand no chance and I gain no rank nor to loose a game I should have won and loose a lot of ranks because my mate was not ranked for that particular teamsetup.

Lacking that, relic atleast needs to change how fast the game is happy with a setup, i understand if you were searching for 10 min you can and will be paired up and against rank 1000 even if top 10. But i had a game where I queue and INSTANTLY got into a game. I was rank 8, the opponents rank 15 as a team and my mate 500... thats just bad programming.

I would also like to add my opinion about this ability. I have been rank 1 2v2 brits using this ability before the okw patch hit and havent been playing them since the aec buff so with decay 24 or so now. I have started playing okw for a change and am rank 5 2v2 atm. So I have used this ability and have had it used against me a fair amount of time.

Here are my observations:

I have not once so far had this ability used against me to any meaningful effect. I would like to point out this game vs 2 highly skilled opponents rank 15 at at that time.

https://www.coh2.org/replay/48394/great-2v2-team-15-vs-rank-8-and-500

Artillery cover is used twice and it did nothing to me. It did cost my mate who was rank 500 so less experienced.

I have used artillery cover myself to good effect killing especialy heavy tanks with it with much smaller forces. So it is highly skill dependant.

The abilities strengths are
-forces you to abandon the territory for the amount of time. If you dont you will suffer heavily.
-sets up for a opportunity to do a lot of damage

What it does not do contrary to what people say
-do damage. Infantry is only pinned and receives slight damage. Unless your infantry happens to be close to a tank when a railway shell lands it will survive with minimal hp loss. The same with tanks. The fast artillery only does turret disabled crit with the first hit and engine damage with the second. The heavy artillery that comes down a lot slower does do a lot of damage.

The trick with it is now that besides the infantry suppression artillery, all of those shots come down with a delay to where your units WERE. The heavy hitter having a longer delay than the light jamming/snaring one. What happens now is that if you stand still you will get hit. But if you reverse, every single shot will miss and additionaly not only that but if your opponent chases after you he is very likely to be hit by his own artillery. Thus very often ending in the chasing units turret beeing jammed/snared or heavily damaged.

It also requires line of sight so unless he does go deep with it it wont hit much. Ofc you can combine it with the recon plane but again, you need to do that - skillbased.

Its only a setup and it is not an uncounterable one. Units like KT's and jagdtigers ir elefants will most surely take engine damage. But they wont ever be hit by the damaging part if you keep reversing and especialy with those units where comets and cromwells get close to pen better chances are very high that your own tanks get disabled as well.

What is beyond a doubt wrong is the amount of time the ability stays active. Its a minute i believe. Much more realistic would be if it were a 30 s ability, lasting for roughly 1 engagement rather than locking you out for an entire minute.

i agree with your write up and think there are two simple ways to deal with (most of) the issues.

1) decrease the lethal (>=80) AoE of howitzers and increase the non-lethal (<80) AoE. this allows artillery to bleed units without wiping anywhere near as often. this also allows artillery to be much more accurate and rapid firing because it gives the receiving player much more time to react.

Edit; they actualy did exactly this change with mirtars a while back, that they dont wipe but do health damage in a bigfer area. It worked wonders. They also did it to the katy i believe. Just with the werfer and calliope relic seems to have decided to go the other way and id like them to rethink that

2) make the pop cost of artillery overly high but leave the mp/fuel cost at standard balanced levels. this does two things. first, it makes it harder to spam artillery because you can have less of it for a given population amount and less of everything else for a given pop cap amount. this results in a force with weaker combined arms. second, an overly high pop cost results in a decreased mp income which punishes bleed on the part of the artillery using player. mp is by far the most valuable (and most plentiful) resource because ALL units (except the para plane falls) require mp to be built. this issue was extremely obvious with the old soviet industry if it was triggered without having a sufficient mp float as the player would end up with 400+ fuel and 0 mp, unable to build anything let alone spam 34/76s.

also, that is a hilarious (and entirely readable) butchering of scissors. don't feel bad though, it's obvious english is not your first language. i had to use auto-correct anyway.

I agree with the damage change to saturation and the way you would do it like I have written in the text. I am not sure with the popcap change. While it might work people would tend to only notice what they receive, beeing that units still getting killed even if in those 2 minutes between barrages the actual MP lost in deaths and upkeep were similar.

There also is the easiest approach of just balancing them closer to the katyusha with more randomness and less damage overall. The werfer could shoot its rockets slower 1 by 1 giving you time to react, the calliope the same.

My most important point is not exactly those 2 units anyhow. But more that people see which role artillery should play to ensure a fun experience and what that means so they dont defend ridiculous weapons or ask for buffs on so called underperforming ones, which ever those may be in the future.