Profile of Kleft

Pretty exciting game me and my 2's buddy had on minsk pocket (level 15 ish players), lots of tanks, great puma plays (puma kills pershing, 2 or so shermans, comet i think, aec), very little artillery if any throughout.

Also they claimed to be american 2's finalists warming up for tourney. EU > NA

IMO, this is not a good solution. It is not a very elegant way of creating unit diversity, it would feel to me to be a cheap and lazy fix of the real problems, that i certainly would probably find frustrating.

The solution to encouraging unit diversity, is to give all units proper, well defined rolls (that are not very broad), cost and time them accordingly and make them effective in those rolls.

For example, AT guns fit those requirements well, and as such they are effective and useful units in pretty much any army, however, against heavy indirect fire, you may choose to exclude them in favor of a tank destroyer. This is good, the unit has a purpose, but it also involves a strategic decision to be made to hold up its effectiveness. Great.

I find the real problem stems from these units that have too wide a roll. The endlessly repeated example is volks, with their early game timing, cheap pricing, and anti infantry and anti tank rolls. Its just too much, you will not promote diversity when one unit can perform so many rolls and on its own counter such a wide variety of units.

Another example in my opinion is rocket artillery, its always slated as a blob counter, but really, in most games i play, its roll is to melt any infantry, blobbed or not, even individual high value squads (randomly wiping them every now and then as well) completely invalidate team weapons and destroy defensive positions. All arty tbh can be used this way, some is just more RNG than others.

This is a problem when it comes to unit diversity, you see rocket artillery in most games, its not really a super late game rarity in that case. And once it hits the field MANY units become bad choices, as this one unit counters them so thoroughly. So again unit diversity punished due to one unit with such a wide scope of effectiveness.

Give all units rolls, make those rolls appropriate, make the units effective in those rolls. This organically punishes spamming tactics, as their army comp is left with holes that can be effectively punished.

Whats with all the "take schrecks away from Volks" ideas? Look, I understand you wanna faceroll 4 squads of bunched up infantry with 1 Sherman, but there's better ways of doing it. Welcome to Company of Indirect Fire 2.

People wanna take schrecks away from volks because at the moment OKW infantry choices are totally brainless, make volks, make a lot of them, upgrade them with schreks.

You never have to fear a light vehicle rush, late game, you always have something to blunt the power of allied medium armour.

They are just all-round a fantastic upgrade to have on a squad.

The trade off for this is that volks are not very effective as a mainline anti infantry squad, which i think a lot of people see as a problem with the faction as it struggles early game vs massed allied infantry. (why the leig and flamegrenads being OP made the faction so strong imo)

So people call for buffs for volks anti inf capabilities. However if you keep schrecks as they are you create a unit that has fantastic antitank capabilities that is cheap and easily accessed from the very early game (for handheld antitank) and can fight the allied infantry toe to toe.

This is clearly broken and will just result in volk blop spamming which i dont think anyone wants (totally brainless, 0 decision making, but very effective)

SO if you think volks need a buff to their anti infantry capabilities, which it seems a lot of people do, you must remove schrecks from them.

Hence, put schrecks on pios idea.

Because you don't have control over retreating units and pios build minefield extremely fast?

No the other guy was saying that you could exploit the fact that the minefield had suppression by retreating a squad through it rather than sweeping it with a sweeper squad.

Which i think is insane because if you retreat through an s mine field your gonna get wiped

Why not just remove the signs and give it suppression?

Solves wiping problem (unless you are REALLY not paying attention), retains power, gets rid of the literal signpost telling the enemy where you have mined.