Profile of 12azor

I am against mirror matches in Ladder, ONE HUNDRED PERCENT. No this cannot be allowed. In custom games I could not care less, but NOT in ladder.

We only want mirror matches for competitive reasons. Having it in basic only defeats the whole point.

okay, let's say wehr mirror on ango (which is a symmetrical map).
perfectly balanced, right? imho: wrong. south wehr is a whole lot easier to play than north.
similarly i'd prefer south langres, south semois, north sturz etc. etc. etc.
another thing i already mentioned, is that usually in mirror matchups the diversity of tactics that are available just isn't there (at least in most other RTS games). it basically is "do this build, or you risk getting your ass handed to you by a player that might not even be half as good as you are".

also: if you think there's been no points made as to why mirror matchups should not be in automatch, then you haven't read this thread at all, which is a shame for coh2 :-P

mirror matchups are not a thing that will break the game for me, but i'd still prefer not having them.

You can't say its a symmetrical map with identitical factions then claim one side has an advantage - obviously a oximoronic statement.

I'm yet to see a game where mirror match is fun. So I'm strongly against mirrors in CoH. I haven't seen it in the game yet, true, but chances are on it being boring.

DoW2 I enjoyed mirrors. WC3 I enjoyed mirrors.

thats wher you are wrong... mirror matches just introduce more opportunities for lopsided matches

How so? A mirror match by definition is perfectly balanced.

Sepha covered basically all my points but I'll repeat what I said in the official forums as counters to the three main points against mirror matches.

#1 Historically accuracy - COH isn't historically accurate in a huge number of ways already. Ranges, damages, unit availability and viability, army compositions, lethality. Mirror matches aren't historically accurate but they're better for the game, just as all the other things mentioned.

#2 Problems with balance - This is a non-point. If Relic and only Relic decides its too much work to balance it then the whole debate is moot anyway because they'll remove it. You can't theorise on balance potential in a game in Alpha.

#3 WAAAAAAAAHAHAAHA IT ISN'T COH, ONLY HAVE IT IN BASIC - The only people who really want it are competitive players or those who understand competitive play. Therefore it has to be enabled in mirror matches. People who are really that fussed can just play basic themselves. (Most of these people are Scheldt players I think)


Also let me just extend on one thing Sepha said; does anyone really think the VP leader choosing faction in a BO3/BO5/BO7 is the best thing for tournaments? This was a stop-gap measure by the community, not by Relic, due to the lack of mirrors and the necessity to have at least BO3 series in any tournament. You think thats good? Logical? Something that should be carried over into COH2?

I can make sure Quinn is aware of that.

We're not allowed to I'm afraid - official forum only at this stage.