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What would people like to see on the Stuh?

I would almost definitely make it non-arty projectile again.

This does 2 things:
- fixes that bug that it tries to shoot over hedges
- open it up for more reliable usage

The thing is with this change effects are still a bit random and makes it too powerful aswell for a 4CP 500 manpower tank.

I already tried out 2 things:
The first one was making the gun more accurate, but damage lowered a lot. This made it so that it wouldn't kill a single member on squads. But the AoE range was still big and the squad health would be reduced to 50% percent health.

The second one was also increased accuracy, damage lowered a lot at longer AoE ranges, but the shorter AoE ranges reduced a lot.
This one would always snipe 1 or 2 guys from the squad and damage the rest of the squad lightly.

But i'm open for ideas on this one.
If people just want it to be a Stug gun, slightly better vs infantry, slightly worse vs tanks ... that's also possible.

It's a tank with a 105mm howitzer, why should it behave like a 75mm StuG gun with AP shells? It's pretty much supposed to rape infantry and buildings. That's what howitzers do in CoH.

If you really want to make changes to the weapon:
Change its AoE damage modifiers to (s/m/l) 1.25/0.6/0.2, AoE distance to 1.25/2.2/5 and increase AoE accuracy to 1.25/1/1 (s/m/l) [current stats: AoE dmg (1/0.65/0.3) // AoE dist (1.25/2.5/5) // AoE acc (1/1/1).]

Then go ahead to increase reload time by 1 second and set call in cost to 550mp. Tadaa - it'll sucessfully, reliably rape units in the center of its impact but deal overall slightly lower damage to spread out units.

If you want to make it more reliable against moving units increase the projectile speed from 20 to 35.

Alternatively make it an indirect fire weapon like the calliope but that will have a huge impact on the gameplay (so, just don't..).

Edit: Oh and what I forgot: if you want to remove that random "my StuH can't kill that single soldier even if it's hit directly by the shells" - just increase the accuracy modifiers/penetration against yellow/green cover.

Edit²: Also, while we're at it. If you actually want to improve the game, you'd actually need to consider switching abilities on Blitzkrieg around. ATM lhs is always more useful than RHS, which is known since years. The reduced CP cost on the StuH is just a symptom that made Blitz more appealing.

It would actually make more sense to switch around Tiger I, mp blitz and Blitzkrieg on the trees.

LHS : Storms (2cp) - Stuh (2cp) - Blitzkrieg (1-2cp)
RHS : Assault nades (1cp) - mp blitz (3cp) - Tiger I (4-5cp)

So you either pick strong call in units that can be buffed with blitzkrieg (StuH profits a lot from blitzkrieg) or you pick RHS to buff your economy to get out a few grens, mp for vet, snipers etc and to get the Tiger in the lategame.

yo.

Well that´s what NewTeamSexy & Planokur did yesterday. :-) Not with a sync but a maphack.

Google Company of Heroes maphack, people are offering money for a new version and it looks like there prayers have been heared.

Create a new Steam Account: for free
Buy CoH: 5 (?) Dollar

So wayne.

Buying coh is more like 20 dollars.

Just wanted to chip in by saying:

1) Whilst it is clear that Relic need to make money from selling DLC, and I think most of us here would accept and agree with that in a broad sense, I am in general agreement with the negative feedback to Elite Troops and Industry, and I hope that it's something Relic will learn from. The concept of pre-vetted 'God units' does not belong in a game which wishes to promote itself as a balanced and competitive RTS. It's a dangerous road to go down, and the fact that competitions like SNF ban those commanders is great because it should (in theory) press the point home to Relic.

I have no idea where you get this "balanced and competitive RTS" from.

CoH 2 is a casual game made for casual players.

Noone should even care for balance on CoH 2 because it's 100% unreachable. The game is designed for casual gamers, who play for fun from time to time. Those players want new cool stuff and don't care for balance because they either bash computers with it or play Theatres of War.

Nah that would make it an M8 but cheaper being able to reinforce (not being able to lay mines). It's meant to be squishy. Although at the time that it comes you can definitely have a pak. The trick is too use it as a clowncar though, drive it past the Pak.

Bringing it significantly earlier (5-10 seconds or 5 fuel wouldn't be a big problem, but more would be) in the game available would make it a PE AC, and we all know how toxic that is.

Lowering it's muni cost would make it spammable. Which probably would make it too good at overrunning enemy positions.

The only way to buff it is increase damage on the main gun. And preferably more focus on it's longer range effectiveness. Also some more consistency in cooldown and burst duration would be nice.

'So my design'
* Quad damage increased from 5 to 7
* Quad reload max decreased from 12s to 10s
* Quad now has a fire aim time of 0.2s (from 0)
* Quad Fire aim time modifier at long range from 2x to 1x, at short range from 0.1x to 1x
* Quad cooldown from 4-2s to 3.2-2.4s (normalized to average 2.8s because now it's has 0.2s fire aim time)
* Quad burst duration normalized from 3.5 - 2.5 to 3.25 - 2.75
* Quad accuracy lowered from 0.2/0.4/0.4 to 0.16/0.3/0.3
* Quad accuracy increment from 1.02 to 1.03
* Quad accuracy vs Heroic armor from 0.9x to 0.85x (clean ups on target table inconsistencies)
* Quad damage vs Sdkfz halftrack from 1x to 0.75x
* Quad penetration vs Puma from 0.02x to 0.04x

These are many changes but base dps it's about:
Short range: slighly less than +5%
Medium range: +5%
Long range: +12%

Notes:
*I did not include reload reduce. (which will make the dps higher in theory)
*I did not include accuracy increment buff which will make it higher (unchanged vs single targets, vs 4 man Grenadier squad about 3% better, significantly better vs compact blob.)

I doubt that increasing its damage will make it more viable (except for increasing its penetration values against light vehicles, which is a good idea imo).

The problem the M3 quad suffers from the most is the fact it has to fight against cloaked pak 38 and it only takes 2 shots to be taken down by one. The only options you'd have would be to make it barely survive 3 pak38 shots instead of 2, reduce its received accuracy against the pak38 or make rolled misses phase through the vehicle (worst idea imo).

Reason: in its current form you can't see where the first shot from a pak will come from because of its camouflage. Since its reload is pretty low the 2nd shell will likely hit the halftrack also before you can move it out of the pak's arc of fire. So if you run into a pak it's destroyed 99% of the time.

This makes the M3 a gamble against Wehrmacht compared to the sturdier m8.

Aaaaalso I think if you make it better damage wise it'll rape PE as it's already very strong against them.

On another note: LMG still needs small price reduction or slight buff to long range accuracy.

If you're going to buff the lmg consider the stats provided by terror's Zeal ability - the cooldown/reload/accuracy modifiers make grens with lmg42 rape machines already.