miragefla u play okw so less its pathetic,try to play the more it might remove ur bias a little
How ironic it is coming from you  |
Don't undermine your credibility with such inaccurate claims. The zook deals 100 and shrecks deals 120 damage, and some slight pen difference.
Shreck costs 90 muni (rip) while the zook costs 50 muni haha
Slight ?
Zooka 130.0/120.0/110.0
Schreck 180.0/170.0/160.0
that's not slight boi |
There are far too many moving parts in this patch to possibly speculate on whether or not Axis have been overnerfed, so people should keep their knickers from getting into a twist until the test-patch goes live. Then, in actual gameplay, people will be able to see what the new lay of the land is, balance wise, and make further tweaks before going live to the main build.
Note that this involves playing the game, i.e. not just posting about it on the forums and theorycrafting. I know that's a new concept to some.
Exactly what i thought, everyone losing their minds on how OKW is dead or those who enjoy too much numbers.
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Order 227 was made, for to keep soldier's morale in difficult times of 42-43, when it was important to hold the line 'till the last. And that order wasn't so terryfing, like Relic shown us in campaign or western "objective" histroics write. Nobody shooted in soldier's backs with Maxims, nobody shooted soldiers, who ignored the order, but still did right thing. They could be punished, yes, but not exectued. And of course, nobody shooted retreating soldiers, because any reasoable commander understands, how important it is too keep your manpower alive. So, that shit about "Order 227" is mostly western progapanda.
You act so hard to deny the truth it is so funny, one day if you are an officer i suggest you make a trip to the nearest military archives, it will be painful at first to be infront of the truth but for now on, please don't even try to deny what is written on official documents around the world, you just insulted the work of russian historians and you spit on the graves of those who died by NKVD section during order 227
And there is nothing wrong in sending "men to death" in politics, because - it is politics. As future officer myself I understand it. No matter how good men under your command you have you should understand 1 thing - they are in real war just expendable material, resourse, like oil or money. It's your job, as commander, as leader, as leader of entire country to use and spend those resourses right, for to get results. Nobody can judge you for you doing your job, but you can be judged for doing your job wrong. Stalin did a lot of wrong things in 1941-42, nobody excueses him for that. But still, he won that war, he saved our country, liberated Europe from nazi, captured Berlin.
So, I think, Stalin used all his resourses pretty well, if we will look on results.
Oh and you discredited yourself just there btw (cf italic) the more you try to deny facts, the more you end up destroring every arguments you say, i don't know where you were teached history but that wasn't a good teacher
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Germans killed civilans because they had order to deal with "sub-humans" on occupied territories and sometime after - for to stop partisans. Are we going to judge simple soldier, who should submit orders for not to be punished, or who don't want to die while he sleep from partisan's raid? In that case, soldier is not criminal - criminals are those, who gave the order - politics.
Well first i let you know that all german troops weren't nazi, the ones that killed, the Einsatzgruppen in this case and others SS division shoudn't get the right to be called germans, you talk like all german soldiers freely and happily killed civilians, sure, some civilians massacre happened, like soviet ones, American ones and british and french ones did.
And as for your opinion on the criminals, we can also say that Stalin killed way more people than hitler did, but people still glorify him , pretty ironic
Same for soviets. I don't say, that there were no "crimes" made by Red Army on libirated terrirories.There were rapes, were murderings of civils... That all happend. But, soviet high command fought against it very strict and hard. For all those crimes soldiers and officiers could be executed without court or tribunal. But it still happend, because soldiers are also humans. Some of soldiers could gone mad of that power, which armed man has on unarmed civilian, some soldiers just wanted to do revenge for lost families and friends, some saw in Europe people traitors, supporters of Reich, who also should be punished... That all was pretty individual and subjective.
I don't say, that I SUPPORT all those acts. I just trying not to judge people, who fought, who lived in war for years, saw deaths and unreasoable violence every day... I'm sure, that we just don't have a right to judge them, no matter how bad their acts were.
Like all armies in the world, High command punished hard every of those acts, don't think it was only in the soviet high command, i remeber stories about American soldier getting executed for rape, and same for German soldiers. But still it doesn't excuse any army from the crimes they commited
Okay so if we follow your way of thinking we don't have the tight to judge what hitler did, we don't have the right to judge order 227, we don't have the right to judge Stalin, Mussolini and others men who send people to their death ?
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Well, then it will be discussion like "my propaganda vs your propaganda", I suppouse.
I got no propaganda running in my head, just different history books opened and different stories about the same war in mind, when i read your post it just seems you don't speak about the same war as everyone here, trying to glorifiy what shouldn't be glorified. Don't think you got all the knowledge in the world about russian army during WW2, a real historian would laugh at you
Oh and by the way, i hope you never say this in real life, you could be in serious trouble, that's revisionism sir
Good news for you - there are no "criminals" on war, actually, in our everyday understanding of that word, we don't talk about "military crimes" now. There are no civil rules, just can't be. All those conventions, morale cryings of naive politics/hippies and all that bullshit - just dissapers after first hours of real war for people. Rape, steal, murdering and killing civilians - can't say, that it is all OK, but that's how things on all wars goes. It's understandable.
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That perfect combat experience, also, was shown in crushing Japan "Kwantung Army" - biggest Japan army group - by soviet troops in only 1 mounth! 1 mounth!!! Compare it with US army achivments on Okinawa - years of fighing on shiity islands without serious results. Here 1 mounth - and entire Japan army crushed and pushed back from China. That's about "0 exerienced soviet soldiers" in late war.
Oh yeah you talk about his battle where soviet got more than the double of the men of the japs and 5 times more arties,and where the japs equipment was send to the pacific front, so they got only light tank and training aircraft
Oh you want to talk about US in the pacific, please don't try, just don't, you make everyone laugh at you
Oh and somedays open real history books and stop looking at propaganda BS
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