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Thread: Pin planes1 Jan 2016, 21:20 PM Jump back to quoted post1 Jan 2016, 20:12 PMTroyd You've already analyzed this to its conclusion. Thankfully the area that gets pinned is relatively small and there is a rather long warning. Also keep in mind - thanks to incremental suppression (more units, means more suppression across larger area) the area becomes exasperated when you have units closer together. Also it sounds like you're waiting to be hit by the ability rather then just retreating the units in the red smoke that aren't able to dodge sooner, this saves manpower. This makes the german CAS strafe a blob control tool, and is mitigated by either actively dodging it or keeping troops separate (so only one or two squads get strafed). Additionally, you can force him to use it defensively by creating pressure using your 983423904732 soviet units. Also, if he's spamming the ability - that means he's burning man power on munitions drops and you now can push through his lines with superior numbers. Overall, its a powerful ability - but easily mitigated by keeping troops not clumped up or moving out of the way (typically diagonally from the red smoke). I wouldn't build a half track to counter it. Force him to use it in un-ideal situations by creating pressure, or feinting on an exposed flank. Honestly when facing this doctrine, I just build some katushas (so he burns muni on recon and AT strafes, by moving), and use limited team weapons. Also, soviets have a pin plane too! You could use it the same effect. Ok, thanks. I did not know that the area gets exasperated. Yes I do not always react immediately due to being busy somewhere else and only average skill level. Also when used for the first time I'm not sure which type of call-in it is - there are too many ostheer commanders ;-) Soviets have a pin plane at 10(?) or 12 cp. At that point in time there are tanks around that will protect the support weapons sufficiently. So basically the ability is too late. In: Strategy Desk
Thread: Ask the Strategist!1 Jan 2016, 12:38 PM Jump back to quoted post1 Jan 2016, 12:19 PM__deleted__ I thnk you mean soviets right ? And against OKW . So you have right now 3 options 1. 4conscripts into guard or shock trooper into fast t70. 2. 2 conscripts and 2 maxims into shocktrooper / guard into fast t70 3. 4 conscripts + engineer with flametrower in m3 (aka clow car) into fast t70 1. this strat is the most mobile one and you have advantage in capping , but you need to build sandbags , take important building , ambush volks or fight them 2v1 and always fight sturmpios with superior position in your hand (building , heavy cover while they advance from open) or then attack them 2 conscript vs 1 . This strat also gets more stronger after 2 Cp cause right now you get elite infantry and so you will have easier time to hold OKW infantry. Then you can go medics and fast t70 or quad (whitch one fits your play better). Just keep in mind OKW player now can rush luchs slightly before t70 so you need to place some mines or tech AT nades or zis , so you can hold luchs back until t 70 comes , whitch hardcounters it. 2. this one is not so strong for capping but mxims are really hard to dislodge for okw until he get incendiary nades and A-moving maxims with supporting conscripts are headache. Only problem here is flanking sturmpio that you should counter by conscripts and volks are not that hard cause maxim will supress them. Keep in mind that luchs will come , so you need mines/AT nades and AT gun so he does not hardcounters you. maxims Then tech for t70 cause you need more shock unit that supression platform. 3. this one is pretty much the same as first one , concripts fight as first one , only change is that you dont go 4 conscript => tier 2 => tier 3 => t70 but you go 4 conscripts => tier 1 => tier 3 That clowncar you build in tier 1 is really potent if you put flamer inside. It does good damage , have shokc factor and you can clear easily garrisons with mobile flametrower. Only problem here is early OKW vehicle , cause you dont have AT gun. Thats why I reccomend 2 guards, at nades, mines , medics and then tech for t 70. This strat is greatest with guard motor so you can spam t 34/85 aftewards t70 so you dont need at guns cause mines , button ,mart target and t34/85 can hold off almost any axis armor. Hope this helps you in your russian early game. EDIT: Yes there are other strats like snipers and 4 maxims , but i found them to be really risky and hard to perform even on my level becuase you make 1 mistake or you dont seze much ground and them luchs will kill you. Also i dont recommend penals or tier 1 + tier 2 strats , penals right now "suck" and if you build both tiers , it will hurt you mp bank really much. Only late game backtech for tier 2 if you went tier 1 and you need at gun to coutner for example kingtiger Great! Thank you very much! I mostly play with a mate who plays US: rifle into captian + stuart into sherman/jackson + callie which of these strats would you recommend when playing a mixed team? In: Strategy Desk
Thread: Ask the Strategist!1 Jan 2016, 11:35 AM Jump back to quoted post31 Dec 2015, 12:15 PMKyleAkira As this is not a strategy question, I will reply because I've tested on it: Conscript vs volk will loose at any range 1v1. You will win close range if is the volk who approach to you and you stay in cover. Conscript vs gren will win in close combat, be sure to approach using covers. Pgren is a close combat unit so it's a different role, you will win at long range with conscripts but the dps will be low. About Fallschrims you have no chance 1v1 on them, it's an elite unit and it will win the engagement at all ranges. Jump back to quoted post31 Dec 2015, 13:43 PM__deleted__ pgrens are mid range unit. They have almost same DPS at long as lmg gren. Dont use conscripts against them , go for shocks Thanks Hector ... That leads to a strategy question then: is there still an early advantage for allies? what am I supposed to do? I can build T1 or 2 but this means my pio is busy building and I spend manpower on the building. Volks and Sturmpio will have a field day with that lone cons that I build in the meantime... In: Strategy Desk
Thread: Pin planes31 Dec 2015, 12:30 PM I mostly play sov in 2v2 with a mate playing USF. During mid game I will have build 2 paks to deal with light vehicles and an mg to protect them. Additional infantry may be around as well. The units aren't clumped together for fear of Stuka. At some point a plane will come in and pin everything, followed up by a horde of infantry. Since everything is pinned red I will have retreat everything that can move, leaving the paks by themselves. At times I will loose the mg as well as it doesn't pack-up fast enough. While this is a very good and valid strategy, I ask what to do about it? M5 Quad will engage the plane but not shoot it down quick enough, so all inf units are still pinned. I guess one answer could be to move around more. However on a 2v2 there is usually not enough space (barring Vaux) as all these support weapons need a lot of space to not be clumped up. This situation doesn't occur too often but it's a frustrating one nonetheless as it pretty much negates anything Sov can do mid game. If the opponents end up stealing the paks and have medium armor, its pretty much gg. In: Strategy Desk
Thread: Ask the Strategist!31 Dec 2015, 11:56 AM Now that the Volks got a buff, at what range does the conscrict excel compared to axis infantry, specifically Grens, Volks, and PGrens. Does it stand a chance against Fallschirms at any range? Cheers! In: Strategy Desk
Thread: Stuka counter in 2v2 as SU/SU or USF/SU?24 Aug 2015, 08:15 AM Thanks for the input. Build 2 quads. Either suicide them into stuka or use them to drive your enemy off the field killing squads on retreat. Jadame, you want to follow squads into enemy territory without scouting ahead? Those quads will go down in no time? And I doubt the quad makes enough damage to a Stuka.. sneak a t-70 or a medium tank around to flank it and take it out. Corsin, the T70 would take too long to take it out, no? The Stuka can drive to where there is some AT/Squad that has Faust or Shrek. The SU is too slow at turning... The baiting sounds interesting. How exactly do you do it? Bunch up 2-3 infantry units (not weapon teams) in one place so they can run away quickly? or do you use MGs and Mortars for that as well? What would you say is a good retreat path then? With no obstacles it's clear how they retreat but the retreating is faster. Or have the units in front of a building where it's not clear along which side of the building they retreat? I've tried counter firing on Moscow. Stuka killed the ML20 with one shot. It is not a long map but ML20 was in my base, the Stuka on the main road in front of theirs. About spacing units out even more. The problem is that the only AT you have are AT guns. When they are too far apart, you cannot defend them against infantry. Usually the opponents come with 2 or 3 squads so you either have an MG there (which means you are clumped up again) or you have several squads yourself there to defend. Problem is you need at least 2 Paks, otherwise Ostwind or P4 will be able to deal with it without a problem. But if you want to be able to defend both paks you will need your squads close by to react to which of the paks the opponent assaults. In the end you are either clumped up again or at least have your units hanging about so you can't maintain field presence. In: Strategy Desk
Thread: Stuka counter in 2v2 as SU/SU or USF/SU?17 Aug 2015, 15:42 PM Hello, we almost exclusively play 2v2 as SU/SU or SU/USF and have a big issue with the Walking Stuka, especially against mixed allies. It seems that we loose every single game where they field one We are level 180 and 220 so not new to the game. We would like to ask for advice on how to deal with the Stuka or if we ignore it, how we adjust our gameplay? Firstly though, let me say that this is not a thread on whether the Walking Stuka is OP or not. It is what it is. If you insist on bitching, go some other place... This thread is written mostly from a perspective of SU/SU but USF/SU basically have the same problem. Stuka can be on the field at (realistically): 40 fuel for T2, 50 for T3 and 100 for the stuka itself. This is usually around 5-6 CP. As soviet you would be in T3 and have fuel for an M5 or T70. This assumes you only build T2, which you pretty much have to do as this is your only reliable way to deal with the Wehrmacht player (either because of the 222 or Ostwind or P4). If you also played T1 you only just finished building T3. So now what are you counters to Stuka? 1) T34/76 2) ML-20 3) Recon + IL-2 precision bomb 4) ? 1) Assuming only T2 and T3 build: you need another 50ish fuel to get to T4, then another 80 for one T34. At an equal fuel income of 30 you need about 4 minutes, so you eat at least 4 barrages until you can make your way to their base. The obvious problem is that when you charge in and there is a gren he will hit you with a bazooka and gives you a damaged engine. That is pretty much 80 fuel down the drain and you don't even get the Stuka (which btw needs two shots from a T34). In our experience you are successful in about 30-40% of the time but pretty much loose the T34 on its way out. There are alwas some Grens or Volks with Shreks. Oh and you will not be so lucky a second time... 2) Comes at 8 CP and you need to be lucky to hit it. I think it needs two shots to kill the Stuka so you have plenty of time to get out of the blast zone. Stuka even counters the ML-20 if allies hold the middle of the map for only a bit - which you cant avoid all the time... 3) IL-2 comes in at 12 CP. By then you probably lost the game. If not, the Stuka can simply move out of the target area if OKW is attentive. And no, dodging is not an option. Why? Because of your AT-guns. If you are quick enough to react you can move/retreat you mortar/MG (although they often get wiped nonetheless due to the lengthy target area of the Stuka. Your AT-gun on the other hand has no chance. It doesn't pack up quick enough and it certainly doesn't move fast enough. Now if OKW keeps targeting Paks for a while you will bleed a lot of MP. After a bit Wehrmacht will have build two P4 and then in a coordinated move, OKW takes out at least one Pak and then the P4 hit. Now the question is what is left? Maybe 1 or 2 Pak but they are far apart due to the threat of the Stuka. T34? lets say together you were able to build a total of 3 T34s by the time the two P4 hit. This could be for several reasons (e.g. one player went T1) or because one got a vehicle out of T3 (which the game is now designed for). If you tried to chase the Stuka with the first T34 you will most likely have lost one of the three which means the P4 have a field day. If you do have 3 this is an even fight. Usually what happens is that P4 simply pull out and Stuka keeps pounding until you have lost a lot of MP. You cant retain a defensive line, e.g. MG, because of the Stuka, so eventually their infantry will overrun you. Mines? Well the Stuka makes them explode as well. Of course you can plant them further ahead of you but then the P4 will hit them but you have no AT around to finish them so that's a waste. Thanks for the help! In: Strategy Desk