Profile of JibberJabberJobber

3v3 - it is just bigger 2v2, but with less spam and more actuall tactics

Playing against AI is not good practice. The AI doesn't have any gameplan or use any tactics, it just blindly throws a superior number of troops towards you (in case of expert ai). You can easily cheese them by just spamming mg's and AT guns.

I'd start with 4v4 to get a hang of the game and its units, then play 1v1 to get stomped and slowly improve upon mistakes.

1. Tiger Ace must be revamp. Currently it's horrible stage. Many people voted on Smartie idea becouse of that - including me.

2. I'm not saying that commander shouldn't get any twicks or changes but hell, if you wanna remove Tiger Ace, radio intel and combine arms you make totally diffrent commander.

3. Assault grens already are in the same commander with a Tiger and they aren't overperforming what's so ever, it's not even meta.

4. Colision HEAT round with Tiger wasn't exist in the main concept. HEAT is your idea and people didn't vote for it. Tiger has priority in the commander design.

Sorry DerbyHat but you cannot just make your own abilities for the new ostheer commander and simply removed the original ideas becouse they colide with yours. That's just silly.

1. Tiger Ace would still be revamped in the new OKW commander, I personally don't see why we need two Tiger+'s for both of the new axis commanders.

2. Not removed, but replaced with abilities that have a similar role for different reasons:
- Radio Intel would be replaced with another intelligence ability, be it a reconnaissance Luchs, recon plane or even spy network. Radio Intel is such a strong ability on its own that Ostheer would pick this commander (or Jaeger Armor) every single teamgame.
- Both would fit the theme ofcourse, but remember that Combined Arms was already added to USF mechanized last patch and still doesn't see much use. Tungsten has proven usability, unused voice lines and is not already used by an Allied faction.

3. My point is not that it would overperform, but rather that putting two abilities of an underused commander in a commander with an (IMO) superior skillset would completely counteract the extra diversity this patch is trying to create. Again: the balance team could just pick one instead of both.

4. To be fair, this was meant more for the OKW commander, which is supposed to come with a Command Tiger and HEAT rounds. It's bad design, just like elefant + spotting scopes or IS2 + mark target.

I just combined some of the ideas that were already given in this thread with my own within the theme of Smartie's commander and tried to make a workable concept from it, with the intent of providing some alternate ideas and voicing some of my concerns. I'm sorry if you find that silly.

I think "Radio" and "Tiger Ace" should stay in every case in the doctrine but as i said before i like the idea of Elite Armor Equipment.
My suggestion would be to merge it with "Extra / Field Support Training" to the new ability "Extra training and equipment". That would free a slot for Assault Grens.
I also like the idea of HEAT rounds, they would make Stugs a lot better against Churchills. Could replace "Combined arms" then.

BTW: What does the community think about "Combined arms"? Its rarely used in games, can someone explain why?

- There will probably be a Command Tiger in the new OKW commander, so IMO the Ostheer commander also getting one would be a bit much. If a Command Tiger does get added, assault grenadiers shouldn't be in the doctrine, which is also an option.

- I requested a reconnaissance Luchs, because radio intelligence doesn't really synergize with the other abilities (pushing with superior armor). A Luchs would provide good frontline sight outside of spotting scopes or the flimsy 222. You could even give it T70 recon mode or tank awareness instead of infantry awareness. Another option for this slot would be spy network from the partisan commander or recon overflight, so you can can find flanking routes for your armor.

- Combined Arms overrides some of the vet bonusses of tanks with the bonusses of its own, which means it can actually nerf vetted tanks like the Pershing when used. Don't really play USF myself so can't speak for the other reasons.

This was the case far back in coh2's history, but it made them too blob friendly, being able to counter both infantry and vehicles.

The shreck upgrade currently changes their role, which IMO is good design.

I'd like that upgrade from infantry doc to be a standard option tho.