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So in that scenario a 340 manpower and 80 munitions squad got forced off and has to reinforce for 120 manpower, by a 260 manpower squad that now has to retreat and reinforce for 66 manpower. Congratulations, you've had a great engagement where you've successfully traded very cost effectively. Next time use sandbags or other cover for your HMG and you can trade even better.



Which is completely irrelevant, since their vet 4 and 5 do not give any combat bonuses.

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STOP USING HYPERBOLE! Or just stop replying you clearly don't understand the point I am making and you just look idiotic. A 210 mp Unit for 30 munitions with a single AT gun can (Listen CAN, even thought it is far cheaper, not WILL, CAN, that means theoretically, it doesn't mean the player should take better care of his tanks or any of that bollocks) kill any vehicle in the game, from a kuble to a tiger 2 because, you know, counters, nothing to do with positioning with attacking with another unit, its all irrelevant, at the end of the day it CAN happen because its a direct counter to that specific unit.

An infantry squad, walking up to the front of an MG when both units have 0 cover a counter to a unit should not see the counter destroyed (Here I will explain why neither units had 0 cover(Ahem: If I was to demonstrate an in game situation I would have scouted the area first with a volks squad, I would have seen an MG in green cover and then I would have flanked the MG to where it couldnt shoot the Obers at all, this, however, wasnt the point of the video, it wasnt to show "How not to use an MG" it was to show my precise statement that "Obers can 1v1 an MG from the front", If you want me to do a video on obers in green cover Vs a Vickers in green cover I can because, guess who wins that one...))

But, let me just use your logic for a change at is seems fun:

Yes in this scenario the OKW player now has to spend 120 manpower to reinforce his obers but meanwhile the UKF player has lost his fuel and it is now being occupied by a second squad of obers that wiped his At gun and 2 tommie squads and is now sitting behind green cover with a P4 nearby. Meanwhile due to the counter attack attempt, the OKW saw an opening and now a Tiger 2 sits on his cut off with a Rak a sturm and several volks! My oh my, the OKW player sure made good use of that 120 man power that it lost!

Whoops sorry, I left my fantasy open for you to mention how the UKF player can just go and attack the other side of the map, or whatever you want to say to justify AN INFANTRY UNIT BEATING AN MG 1v1 FROM THE FRONT with absolutely no input from the player, even snipers you know, the things perfect for taking out team weapons, have to be microd in order to wipe and MG frontally.

You are basically saying the same thing as a Firefly should not be able to kill a tiger because it is simply cheaper despite the FF being a tank destroyer (You know like an MG being a counter to infantry but because obers are elite and snowflake, Mg's shouldn't counter them when they run into the front of them, in no cover with no other squads attacking .

Oh and erm Obers get no combat bonuses after vet 3? So the fact they can now suppress infantry at vet 4 isn't a combat bonus, and according to this webise they also get -20% received accuracy at vet 4 but thats probably changed and I cant check currently but, OK!

The first video literally shows the HMG winning against the Obers lol. Perhaps try to position your HMG behind cover if you don't want it getting killed frontally. Don't blame bad play on game balance. I'm done replying here since you clearly don't want to be helped and you seem to be here just to whine.

But what must the Mg do now after facing that 1 squad? You got it, Retreat! That area is no longer covered by an MG After an engagement with 1 squad head on and a vet 3 MG might I add, the obers still have 2 vet levels to go.

Position or cover has nothing to do with what I just showed you, both squads were out of cover and 1 squad beat an MG head on, but please continue with the hyperbole about what should have been different, how the MG should have been in cover and the obers not because thats how all engagements go.

It's perfectly fine for a certain unit (especially if its expensive and doctrinal) to counter another unit. This is how the game works. I'm not sure why you think it's such a problem anyway, a sniper shouldn't be anywhere near the detection range and if Commandos struggle versus IR STG44 Obers, they can be equipped with 2x elite Brens so they don't have to use their camo.



UKF shouldn't really struggle with late game blobs with the Centaur, and to most extend the Cromwell, the Comet or the Churchill. All are good or excellent versus infantry. Worst case there's the AVRE or the Crocodile to demolish blobs. Bren Infantry Sections and Bren Commandos can win most if not all infantry engagements. I actually do quite well versus "OKW and G43 Gren blobs", since I'm around top 5 with UKF in randoms 3v3s.

3v3 != 1v1's and I hate all the hyperbole about well you can just use X/Y to do A/B! Axis could have just used ostwind to counter the UKF blobs.

Let me throw out a suggestion. I may add it to my mod tomorrow.

Upon designation, a recon aircraft will fly over. (Can not target in fog of war)
For the duration an overwatch action will apply.
Up to 4 MG strafes on infantry only.
Up to 2 scatter bombing runs on buildings.
Up to 2 Precision bombings on vehicles.
High likelihood of attack craft of being shot down.

This would make the ability more about field control rather than obliterating a target. I would rather not see HQs be obliterated every time it is cast, especially seeing the commander already has a quick recon for targeting. The commander though is already too heavy on munitions.

Then why on earth would anyone bother using it if it could get shot down before its bombed? Keep it as is if thats a change you'd make, its 250muni, the recon ability is 120? or is it 80 I forget, but either way thats over 300 muni to kill a structure, thats its job.

So what would you propose to OKW bombing abilities that melt emplacements then pop smoke everywhere? That can't be shot down and is made for the same scenario.

Don't try change what doesnt need to be, just look at the bit that doesnt work!

Just because you get unlucky with one or two drops does not mean this mechanic isnt applies evenly between the units and weapons you've listed.

The only unit which is effected differently is guards and that is because they carry a large amount of droppable weapons.

I could show you a video of a T-34 penetrating an OKW P4 frontally with every shot until death, that does not mean the T-34 has good penetration, it means it got lucky a couple times in a row.


If you understand how the weapon drop mechanic works, you should understand the reason units equipped with more than one droppable weapon drop weapons more often than a unit with only a single droppable weapon. Panzergrenadiers with shreks drop shreks just as often than double bren IS drop lmg.

AND? Did I say Pgrens dont drop them? I could care less if it was magic fairy dust that causes weapons to drop, the issue is they drop when you have 2 weapons which I have said, the problem with that WHICH I HAVE SAID is that you NEED 2 bren guns as 1 is pointless, so unless they stop the BS weapon drop as is for tommie squads they need to limit bren guns to 1 and buff it.

Plus if you would have read my point properly you would see that I compare how BS it is that OKW weapon upgrades simply do not drop so there is no risk to upgrading their squads.