Profile of kafrion

Ok 1st the serious things . I think the soviet mg are ludicrous their range needs to be reduced not to mention they suppress with the first volley and have lots of damage which in maps like KF is so boring to play against . Straffing runs are also a bit too good esp since they hit units in camo . 3rd P4 top gunner needs a wee buff .

On the less serious note i think i have been drophacked and i d like to know if there is something that can be done to vallidate or invallidate that conclusion

Some of you just dont know how to read or are just unwilling to engage it , its not an issue of l2p , i cant understant why you bother writing any crap without reading anything that has been written before . At least there are some others who actually took the time to read and have provided some good feedback .

The only good counter so far that has been suggested is guards i ll admit that i hadnt tried them before in that role , but that only serves to make soviet play even more 1-dimensional since its one of the few ways ( or the only one ) to use t1 safely .

As for those saying that an atg or mortar team is a counter to bunkers , it is only when the opponent is inexperienced enough to put the bunker in the cut off where its gonna be attacked by the full force of the soviet player and few people do that , when the bunker is placed on a fuel in the edge of the map and you send the atg to destroy it , your an idiot , because your asking for your atg + escort to be destroyed and your hardpoint to be attacked all in the same 2-3 minute time period before you can produce a new atg.

Penals are the counter due to their scatchel , too bad they are not good for anything else , if you make penals to counter bunkers then i pitty you . Even if you destroy the bunker you are already behind in the resource war .

engies , well first there is the point where you have to upgrade them with cutters because if your enemy builds the damn bunker he will build some wire unless he is playing for the first time and in the case where the mg is placed in a way you cant approach otherwise you will have to produce an m3 and following that either pay even more munitions to demo it or destroy it with flamers which takes a good amount of time too and geopardises your m3 , and at the current state of the soviet t1 is again pretty bad cause of all the waisted resources

This thread is derailed beyond salvation

Bunkers are fine except with the call-in Ostruppen building them, which are just ridiculous in general. With grenadiers or even pios building them, it involves spending about the cost of a unit, guaranteeing no early LMG, using a lot of time on one of only a few early units. With the Ostruppen building them you don't need to use an important unit because you'll have about six of them, the manpower saving from t1 and the cheap troops will more or less equal the cost of the bunkers, locking down the fuel means the Ostruppen don't have to do anything they're bad at like fighting in the open to protect a point...

I don't think there's a problem with bunkers in general, just with Ostruppen being a ridiculously stupid unit as they're currently implemented and them synergising very well with lazy bunker lockdowns.

Guards and AT guns both get rid of bunkers fairly quickly.

i havent tried guards against them i ll admit that , but getting an atg to a fuel point away from the base is really risky since you are in the double danger of the atg singled out or if you detach more forces from your hardpoint you risk the danger of attracting an attack there

In short i think that bunkers are too much trouble for their price , and hinder the fluidity of the game

i am also under the impression that in coh1 the american mg placement was vulnerable to small arms fire , why not apply the same in coh2 ?

If your opponent has gone Tier 1 with the bunker like a good player not abusing flavour-of-the-month bullshit, cutting half a gren squad, an LMG and some wasted capping time on a gren or pio squad from the start should let you get enough map presence to cut off the fuel or bully them and lock down the other fuel until you get some guards or an AT gun out to knock the bunker down.

fact is that they are not all that expensive , they are basically worth the cost of 1 pio which isnt all that much


Although i will admit that they are very frustrting mainly in semois , which just adds to the map being an ugly campfest

Both of youy missed my points , go back to the OP and read it again , you ll see why , the solutions your proposing arent as effective as you d think . Allthough planting a demo could be a solution if ofcourse there is noone around and approaching with an engies is possible .