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Thread: PTRS now OP?3 Apr 2015, 22:46 PM Jump back to quoted post3 Apr 2015, 22:24 PMpussyking Clearly that scene was arranged. Four cons squads charging HMG and no support ever seen. Thats clearly a set-up scenery. lol yes, it was a conspiracy. PTRS buff was an inside job In: COH2 Balance
Thread: PTRS now OP?3 Apr 2015, 20:38 PM Jump back to quoted post3 Apr 2015, 20:26 PMAchtAchter There are players defending this bullcrap =))) Legit WW2 tactics here guys! Green cover, attacking through open field under no cover,no armor support, no indirect fire, no smoke, and mg gets wiped while heroicly managing to kill 3 guys out of what looks like 24. #Legit In: COH2 Balance
Thread: PTRS now OP?3 Apr 2015, 20:33 PM Jump back to quoted post3 Apr 2015, 20:25 PMvan Voort PTRS does not unlock til 3CP Oh wow,3 CP? Jeez youre safe then for at least 5 minutes.. Besides, I said conscripts are the first unit you can make. Not like with guards that are a bigger investment, you just build 8 con squads and when you unlock the upgrade a few minutes in, thats it. GG. The only counter i can think of would be serious indirect fire like walking stuka or some kind of level 10+ sector artillery that doesnt exist. Youre forced to concede the map or lose all your forces getting slaughtered to PTRS onslaught with no viable counter measure. Its supposed to be machine guns, but for some reason they are useless for killing anyone. They supress people until the other player decides to retreat or flanks the gun and quickly dispatches it. There just shouldnt be any ONE unit in the game that you can just spam that dictates the entire course of the match. If i wanted to spam hordes of units, id play starcraft. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: PTRS now OP?3 Apr 2015, 20:21 PM Guards were never a game breaking problem - conscripts are the very first unit you can make. You dont even need to tech anything. If they want to be 'realistic' about the ptrs doing anything, guys shouldnt be firing from the shoulder at team weapons that are spewing thousands of rounds per minute, its just silly. It could improvise to penetrate cover, snipe guys maybe, damage light and medium tanks.. its not designed to be obliterating infantry. Even if it was mass produced and an entire platoon carried them theyd still be wrecked by a conventional rifle unit. The ptrs is too heavy and unwieldy to use en masse like that. Do you know big those rounds are and how much they weigh? The rate of fire for them maybe could be slower, i dunno. I still say buffing all machine guns to at least be somewhat realistic is preferrable. Its s video game after all not a simulator but come on whats next... flamethrower spam taking down t34s because or silly damage stats and relic explaining through an anecdote that one time a clever flamethrower killed a tank crew by mounting the vehicle and getting the nozzle through a crew vent or parascope? Off topic rant. Fix the machine guns and this ptrs non sense !! In: COH2 Balance
Thread: PTRS now OP?3 Apr 2015, 19:26 PM Jump back to quoted post3 Apr 2015, 16:25 PMVuther Then Maxims are going to need pretty major buffs. All machine guns... Any kind of infantry mass wouldn't be an issue if machine guns functioned remotely realistically. Being supressed is one thing - sure - if youre under any kind of decent cover but bushes, trees, fields, any open areas you'd be shredded to bits. Even a poorly trained half wit can cause serious damage with one of these weapon systems. It always bugged me how machine guns just 'suppress' units and don't really inflict any significant damage but its a game whatever. Like I said though, machine guns were invented and employed to desyroy hordes of infantry at horriying rates. Thats what they do. Using machine guns to counter a platoon+ size of men roaming around with impunity should be a no brainer - but this is CoH - where panzershreks can curve around corners defying physics and people can magically teleport out of buildings. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: PTRS now OP?3 Apr 2015, 18:18 PM Jump back to quoted post3 Apr 2015, 18:01 PMPorygon A few teamgame and 1v1 experience of this Cons blob of doomed, these are my feeling. They wtfpwn everyone walking with legs, even Obers, IRSTG or LMG34, doesn't matter. They can frontally assault MG42, and even destroy the gun. Pak? Rakenten? Just die. Luch? lol Medium tank like P4? Ohwaa, AT nade, and MOAR AT nade, and bambambam PTRS, bye P4. Any OKW truck? Call bombing run, and 3 secs of shot bring it down. Anyone said it is not OP are ignorant, or trolling, or stupid, or both. This. The only reasonable response to a giant mass of infantry of any kind are machine guns. Thats what they are for, were designed for, and changed the face of warfighting. I played one guy using this tactic 3x i a row. The first caught me off guard but subsequent matches, i tried various things as OKW and really theres nothing that can counter it. I tried building 4+ Machine guns, didnt matter - only served a temporary slowdown. Anyone with a functioning brain can draw fire and flank, you cant be everywhere at once. Even if you manage to inflict some losses its no use - conscripts cost nothing to replace while losing a mg is lost forever. Theres nothing in the OKW aresenal that can counter this. Someone mentioned spamming fusiliers and holding on for KT which is hilarious but not plausible. (Im talking 1v1 btw). Maybe in a 2v2 match with bigger maps this could be done, but needing a KT to counter a horde of infantry is just dumb. MGs are underpowered in this game on both sides imo. They should be higher pop cap, more expensive and much more hazardous to infantry than simply being a nuisance obstacle that blocks an area. The vast majority of casualties in infantry combat are from machine guns and indirect fire. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: PTRS now OP?3 Apr 2015, 06:26 AM Okay well I saw this thread earlier and assumed it was someone being a cry baby, but I just lost twice in a row to the same guy doing the same thing - just spamming conscripts with PTRS. The first time was ridiculous and I got steamrolled, but I drew him again and I knew what he was going to do, and it still didnt matter. Overlapping machine guns galore, whatever I can muster, it was no use. Tried a couple flak Half tracks as well - no go. I managed to drag the match on a little longer this time (it was a bigger map) but all he did was bunker down all over the place with sandbags and lacking any indirect fire weapons besides the overprice/terrible performance gun the OKW have (which the truck I didnt even build right away) I have no idea. Even If i did get one, he would have just rushed it and killed it. Both games I played as OKW. Don't even want to think how this would play out vs Ostheer. OKW has 0 ability to counter this - they have no sniper or long range unit and somehow the PTRS range is almost just as long as the MG34 and like the OP said, no f-s are given - 2-3 shots instantaneous death to MG squads. Halftracks destroyed, light tanks, whatever you have. Short of somehow drawing them into a massive minefield, I have no idea how to fix this. I want to play a few games as Soviet and do the same thing and see how far up the ladder I can go playing like this greasy nonsense allows. It's bananas. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: PTRS Nonsense3 Apr 2015, 06:01 AM Just watched replay - it was 8 conscripts and 6 PTRS In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: PTRS Nonsense3 Apr 2015, 05:55 AM Did Relic do any testing of this whatsoever ? I just encountered a player that built nothing but conscript squads, and had maybe 7 of them with PTRS', that were one shotting entire MG teams, Kubelwagons, Volks Squads, everything. Overlapping maching guns were just gunned down in an instant like they were hit with a grenade. So I guess, new Soviet strategy is to just built 9 conscript squads in a giant blob and equip them all with PTRS against OKW - I can't think of anyway to counter this. I built maybe 4-5 machine guns, didn't matter, they ran me over like it was nothing. GG In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Ladder rankings8 Mar 2015, 03:09 AM Hmm well my USF rank alone in 1v1 is 39XX something, im around .500% with them maybe 50 games. Im 7 or 8000+ with soviets in 20 games lol My highest rank is OKW at 1441. I primarily use them with 200 games or so 1v1 and another 100 or so 2v2. Id say im an average or slightly better than average player at best. In: Lobby