Its not clear what caused the HMG to "die". Maybe it was a bug which has nothing to do with PTRS.
Care to speculate?
PTRS now OP?
3 Apr 2015, 22:15 PM
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Care to speculate?
3 Apr 2015, 22:17 PM
#262
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Good point, stolen HMG is much worse than destroyed HMG. Axis fanboys should love cons PTRS, its saving em trouble.
Irony aside, its really uncommon HMG get destroyed by PTRS, maybe axis fanboys are imagine things becouse I have played 6 games today, spammed cons with PTRS and no axis HMG kills so far.
It is literally impossible for the PTRS to miss the weapon the weapon team is crewing, it's not nearly as uncommon as you think it is.
Its not clear what caused the HMG to "die". Maybe it was a bug which has nothing to do with PTRS.
The MG34 has a size of 20, which the PTRS will hit 100% of the time. 4 cons can kill it in 3 seconds due to the very high DPS of the PTRS.
3 Apr 2015, 22:21 PM
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It is literally impossible for the PTRS to miss the weapon the weapon team is crewing, it's not nearly as uncommon as you think it is.
The MG34 has a size of 20, which the PTRS will hit 100% of the time. 4 cons can kill it in 3 seconds due to the very high DPS of the PTRS.
But it took em half a minute to destroy that HMG. It was not an instakill like StugE killing AT gun with the first shot, pang and AT gun gone (Did Relic fix that bug?)
Could that be a cover ghosting issue which affected the HMG somehow?
3 Apr 2015, 22:24 PM
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But it took em half a minute to destroy that HMG. It was not an instakill like StugE killing AT gun with the first shot, pang and AT gun gone (Did Relic fix that bug?)
Could that be a cover ghosting issue which affected the HMG somehow?
Because the PTRS cons don't always shoot at the gun, and the suppression was affecting their ROF. The PTRS has a fairly long target acquisition time, but once it gets going the DPS it can put out is very good.
The StuG E cannot actually 1 shot AT guns, as it only has 80 damage.
3 Apr 2015, 22:24 PM
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Care to speculate?
Clearly that scene was arranged. Four cons squads charging HMG and no support ever seen. Thats clearly a set-up scenery.
3 Apr 2015, 22:27 PM
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maybe. doesn't make it suddenly non-valid.
3 Apr 2015, 22:29 PM
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Because the PTRS cons don't always shoot at the gun, and the suppression was affecting their ROF. The PTRS has a fairly long target acquisition time, but once it gets going the DPS it can put out is very good.
The StuG E cannot actually 1 shot AT guns, as it only has 80 damage.
The HMG stands behind volk built cover and we know there are ghosting issues.
The ghost cover got destroyed by PTRS fire and HMG was placed in that ghost cover so HMG and the attached models was removed from the world with that cover gone.
3 Apr 2015, 22:30 PM
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Clearly that scene was arranged. Four cons squads charging HMG and no support ever seen. Thats clearly a set-up scenery.
Arranged as in an actual in game 2v2 scenario, yes...
You still didn't answer my question as to what you think destroyed the gun + team in an instant.
3 Apr 2015, 22:37 PM
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Arranged as in an actual in game 2v2 scenario, yes...
You still didn't answer my question as to what you think destroyed the gun + team in an instant.
It was sandbags built by cons, not volk sandbags as I wrote above.
I think that was a bug. New patch produced new bug. Maybe PTRS has nothing to do with it.
3 Apr 2015, 22:38 PM
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cover being destroyed has no affect on units in that cover.
3 Apr 2015, 22:40 PM
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It was sandbags built by cons, not volk sandbags as I wrote above.
I think that was a bug. New patch produced new bug. Maybe PTRS has nothing to do with it.
What's your answer to the fact that you can destroy enemy crew weapons who are garrisoned in buildings?
3 Apr 2015, 22:42 PM
#272
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cover being destroyed has no affect on units in that cover.
Thats right, but maybe there was a ghost sandbag there.
What do you think? What caused that damn HMG to "die"?
If you watch the video carefully it looked like HMG and the models got crushed by world.
3 Apr 2015, 22:46 PM
#273
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Clearly that scene was arranged. Four cons squads charging HMG and no support ever seen. Thats clearly a set-up scenery.
lol yes, it was a conspiracy.
PTRS buff was an inside job
3 Apr 2015, 22:46 PM
#274
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What's your answer to the fact that you can destroy enemy crew weapons who are garrisoned in buildings?
I dont know if that is true as you provide no video evidence.
I can speculate PTRS might affect ambient world objects which shift and crush models and HMGs.
You have to keep in mind that the video porygon posted was arranged.
3 Apr 2015, 22:46 PM
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Thats right, but maybe there was a ghost sandbag there.
What do you think? What caused that damn HMG to "die"?
If you watch the video carefully it looked like HMG and the models got crushed by world.
HMG died because the gun way destroyed, normally, in AT guns the crew retreated out of map, but for HMG they just simply die
3 Apr 2015, 22:49 PM
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HMG died because the gun way destroyed, normally, in AT guns the crew retreated out of map, but for HMG they just simply die
Was the HMG at full health at the moment cons attacked?
3 Apr 2015, 22:49 PM
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What do you think? What caused that damn HMG to "die"?
You have to keep in mind that the video porygon posted was arranged.
I think the cons PTRS destroyed the gun, causing the squad members to die.
That was an automatch 2v2 scenario, emblematic of what you will encounter in a game.
3 Apr 2015, 22:50 PM
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A simple fix for now would be to make that upgrade only give cons 1 PTRS, then hopefully relic will adjust the target priority in the future.
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3 Apr 2015, 22:52 PM
#279
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Thats right, but maybe there was a ghost sandbag there.
What do you think? What caused that damn HMG to "die"?
If you watch the video carefully it looked like HMG and the models got crushed by world.
you can't crush setup teams, they have the highest pathing priority.
3 Apr 2015, 22:54 PM
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Please just ignore Pussking. Seriously, that is all it takes.
Please, you can save us all by just not responding to him. Everybody knows he is wrong, you don't have anything to prove.
Please, you can save us all by just not responding to him. Everybody knows he is wrong, you don't have anything to prove.
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Someone asked what my avatar was from... I really don't know.
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